Depp/Heard Trial Verdict

I think that's a 4chan thing, it's happened before...

There was that storyline with Damien in Fair City, but that's a while ago now

I guess this result could have a chillingeffect on the metoo movement. Unsubstantiated claims could now bankrupt you especially if the claim is against a rich person. Not sure its a good or bad thing, it has reuzlted in weinstein r Kelly and cosby being brought to justice but has damaged alot of innocent lives too.

I don't consume mainstream media, for obvious reasons, but I'll be willing to guess that the CEO of Mens Aid hasn't been given exposure this week....

Johnny Depp was abused by his mother and his wife, but nutters like that can't bring themselves to acknowledge that a man can suffer abuse also....it's infantile and a sad reflection on the path feminists have taken themselves!!!

Whilst I agree that Depp isn't a poster boy for anything apart from being a typical dysfunctional Hollywood type...he has been abused by two women in his life.

Amber Heard is being presented as a poster girl for feminists who have convinced themselves that women cannot be abusive in relationships, an utterly absurd position to take.

I agree but Heard could spin a believable lie due to Depps erratic behavuour and him having financial power in the relationship. Who was the second woman?

What's clear to me after the trials is that Depp was not a fan or at least learned nothing from True Detective...

2 min clip in total, just jump to 35secs if you want to cut to it

https://youtu.be/DzpxP8znJG4

America, eh? There must be some amount of mentally ill people over there.

#BelieveAllWomen...

Kate Moss- 'He didn't hit me. In fact, he was a gentleman'

NOT HER!!!

I noticed that media really, really tried to paint Depp's attorney's as scurrilous. Or allege he was dating Ms Vasquez, which would be a breach of ethics. (He hugged Camille, and he hugged Ben Chew. Nobody ever accused him of being in a relationship with Chew). Ms Vasquez has been photographed with her boyfriend, since the case has ended. I also believe the hugging was a tactic by his team. A clever one, as it was meant to intimidate Amber Heard. Narcissist's apparently can become inflamed, or angered, when they see someone getting affection. It was a clever way to throw her off her 'cool' exterior.

Very much so. Since she has been shown to have perjured herself, the case can now be reopened. As can a similar case in Australia.

The US trial has opened up a considerable can of worms, for her.

That sounds like hogwash (Not you, the information). When the embryos are outside of the uterus (surrogate or otherwise) they belong to nobody. You don't need have them destroyed. They'll just expire. There have been similar cases in the past where women have gone to court to try and have embryos implanted, either after the marriage brokedown, or the relationship broke up, or any other circumstance. Their spouse, the sperm donor, has often not wanted to be a parent. The women, in those situations-they've lost every case.

For an embryo to be implanted, both have to agree to their use. If one party disagrees, the embryos cannot be used, and will expire.

We've seen how feminism has fallen apart. I remember a book that came out about 10 or 11 years ago called 'Living Dolls'... and it was quite interesting. The main argument was that feminism had fallen apart. And to be quite honest, it's only gotten more divisive. We went from 'feminism' to 'racism within feminism' to 'Terfism'... and more and more within. People who were seen as the mouthpieces of feminism be they Germaine Greer, or Margaret Atwood are now on the outs with modern feminists, and in the case of Germaine Greer, it's the chickens coming home to roost.

Feminism went from 'being equal' to 'special treatment'. And honest, open, intelligent debate.... that's gone down the toilet.

What I will say, however, is that the mainstream audience have, time and time again, rejected this format of thinking. We saw the narrative the media tried to peddle, versus the reality. People turned out in droves for Depp. Even in the UK, at the previous trial. That gives me hope.

Agree partially with your first point. It's incredibly difficult to prosecute rape or S.A. Barring instances like the case where a poor girl was assaulted by 5 men she didn't know, many cases can allege consensual.

There was even a recent case where one woman was inebriated (possibly drugged, as in roofied, not using substances) and she was assaulted. People started jeering her, and filming her on their phone, rather than coming to her aid. (They were women, and men, just for the record.) They believed it was a consensual encounter. If they had stated 'it was consensual', then her case would be tossed out, very easily.

The stats of men being rape victims are roughly the same. As are the levels of prosecution. Even if the victim is hetero, a claim of a consensual encounter (Despite many rapists also being straight) and the case becomes even more difficult to prove.

The tragic thing about rape is that it's insanely difficult to prove and prosecute. Pardon the analogy, but if you steal someone's property, like a phone or laptop, you can point to it and say 'that's my property'. If one is the victim of a rape, they're the evidence. And the victim. And if they report the crime too late (not shaming- rape is a horrific ordeal), much of the evidence may be gone.

I think the media clamouring down on the 'Amber's a victim' are very much doing damage to male victims of domestic violence. Imagine being a man, who's wife had been hitting him, and trying to leave that situation. Then hearing the media not believe Depp. I've known men who ended up in hospital because of a violent spouse. This kind of reporting makes things poisonous to one's mentality.

It is such an awkwardly written apology clearly crafted by his record company/management. A picture with JD now seems to be worse then being caught dropping an n-bomb and /or dressing like Hitler.

Probably told by his managers to be seen to be neutral as to not alienate anyone ..

I think by looking at my posts, it's safe to say I am very much on what would be considered the left side of politics. I'm completely on Depp's side. This case isn't about lefties or righties. It's about the truth, and the truth is that Depp was not the aggressor in that relationship.

Did he say some regretful things? Sure. Have I said worse about my own abusive family member, absolutely. Heck, I'm sure if you go far back enough in my messages to friends, I've even joked that I'd like to catapult my worse than useless thesis supervisor across the Atlantic.

Reacting to abuse is not abuse. The amount of Heard supporters after such a clear cut case is shocking. It's obvious to anyone with more than 2 brain cells that Heard lied her way through that trial and is a very manipulative person. Even when confronted with her lies, she continued to blatantly lie. She has not helped women domestic violence victims one bit. If anything, it's left them in a more precarious position of not being believed. She is a very dangerous woman and I really, really hope that the judge brings a perjury case against her.

I suppose we can be grateful he posted the picture on the first place.

On instinct.....

He wouldn't have done that if the trial was still on.

A small reality check to these abuser worshippers

I think Heard jumped on the metoo abuse violence victim bandwagon and it back fired

Plus everyone refuted her claims.

'Warner Bros fired me'- well, the Warner Bros chief Walter Hamada said no.

'I had my nose broken'- the photo shows a perfectly healthy nose.

'I was assaulted with a bottle'- the private nurse saw none of that.

'I donated the money to the chosen charities' - the charities testified they got nothing.