BMW i4

Rsymons (Richard Symons) on YouTube today with a mini road test of an I4 M50.

Those 20” alloys look great but really kill the range.

Yeah maybe a little, Tesla fanboys are his prime demographic so he has to pander. Even looking at the thumbnail you are not comparing two cars in the same segment to each-other.

He is a bit of a fanboy alright but he's honest enough with all cars good and bad points. Covers a good spread of EV's and their range and charging speeds in everyday use.

True. I like him generally - I really wanted him to not just be a.n.other Tesla guy.

worth bearing in mind too that the m3 is the best selling car in the UK, so his YouTube target market is huge, and reviewers like him are dying for ‘the next m3’, considering they won’t be reviewing a new Tesla for a long long time - whereas the m3 polls at number 36-38 best selling model in Ireland for 2020/21 and so far in ‘22, noise level really - so reviews of the other electric cars are equally/more important here.

as said before, The UK has excellent Tesla lease and PCP options, which we don’t have here, so when it comes to paying big money for a car, people clearly tend towards what they know.

Its not that he reviews non Teslas EV's badly...its that he lets the tesla away with murder because his entire channel is basically based on Tesla. Look at his top videos....even the non Tesla vids are "reviewed by a tesla owner" so there to capture Tesla eyeballs looking for some sweet confirmation bias.

He gives non Tesla faint praise.....but mostly fails to point out the issues with the Tesla in the same manner as the non Tesla's. He seems to have had a lot of the same cars as me so he knows what I am talking about.

That he compares these cars at all and does range tests is a pointless farce...its playing to the tesla "top trumps mentality"...Does a model 3 standard range go further on a charge than a im40.....who give a fcuk, nobody spending on the beemer is trying to out range a tesla. (was a BMW every baught for pure economy?) I would assume deep down he is not a Tesla Fanboi but he knows what side his bread is buttered on. And remember this guys is a car sales man, cannot sell you a car today and slag it off tomorrow...tesla have not released a new car since 2017...the model Y is not a new car, that the comparisons would point out that they are starting to show their age would be obvious....but its absent.

Just watched the vid now. Clearly Richard Symons rates the i4 M50 higher than the Tesla Model 3 Performance in many ways, or am I missing something here? It's more comfortable, more refined and the on paper performance difference isn't really there in real life. Sure it doesn't have the same range or efficiency, but who cares.

its a good video , will be interesting to see how he gets on with it over next few weeks. For the laugh i specced up an m50 last night & when you add a few of the packs to get the same level as the performance model 3 with blue paint it was €93k, thats €20k more than the Tesla M3P & really into Taycan money which lets face it is the better car. In reality range is important to most people so it looks like around 350-370 kms for the M50 & probably less on the motorway.

I did a trip to the west at the weekend with 4 of us in the M3P ( on 20" wheels) with aircon on and a 275km round trip consumed 60% battery at speeds of 100-110km/hr giving me a total range of 460 km, for me anyway i'm happy with that but if we all liked the same thing life would be pretty boring. some people prefer Tesla , some BMW, some Porsche so its all good

Mine is costing just over @ €91K, it's pretty much fully loaded. I considered a Taycan but when spec'd how I wanted it (similar options to i4), it was €130K so I decided against it. I had no interest in sacrificing a bunch of options just to get a Taycan, but I understand a lot of people will.

Yeah true, when I think about it there was probably another €5K worth I didn't add.

Feck me, some of the BMW's are expensive, the i4 seems like good value compared to them.

What is a comparable car? size wise, forget about range or charging speed, 3 series?

In a normal market, the Audi version of a VAG platform would sell considerably more volume than the Porsche version.

However, in the case of the Etron GT, the taycan has outsold it by multiples, even YTD 2022, and continues to sell about thr same annual volume since it was released 2 years ago . personally I find the taycan a far more unique offering, for pretty similar money.

It would be the equivalent of the 4S, power wise and it also being 4WD

... I will say the eTron GT in much more impressive in the flesh than it looks in any photo IMO, it really needs to be seen to be appreciated. Unfortunately not available to order anywhere though and hasn't been for a while now so not surprised the Taycan is outselling it.