Obi Wan Kenobi - Disney+ (may contain spoilers)

Do you really think that these scum bags are fans or even actually watch Star Wars?

I don’t know what messages were sent to Ingram,Tran or Boyega but that they were about skin colour is enough to know. I didn’t know about Lloyd or Best until recently - that people ranted about the characters yes but not that those guys were personally

However, this kind of thing doesn’t match with the fans I see when streaming Star Wars Celebration over the last few years.

Cheering and hollering at the sight of Lucas or other actors. The dressing up. Etc.

I know some people are different in real life to how they behave online but I can’t imagine the folks at Celebration doing those hate messages.

Have Pascal, Morrison, Weathers, Wen or Esposito had this muck directed at them?

Where did he claim that.

He just said it's poorly scripted. I agree with him. It's also been a common trait in these Star wars shows.

If people enjoy it and aren't distracted by it fine. Each to their own and all that. I really liked Kumail Nanjiani part.

I don't think every movies has to be Saw 5 to be for an adult audience.

Where is the “tortuous tying back to other stories”?

i haven’t seen any of that?

Well you either see it or you don't.

The age ratings of the movies always wandered around. Which I thought slightly odd. Its not the only Franchise to do that though.

Epipode III is kinda dark in many ways. But then its Vaders story is dark/grim. Thats what Lucas turned the story into. I would have gone a diferent way, but here we are.

Thus far Obi seems ok. No series is perfect.

I don’t because it isn’t there.

As you admitted in that other other post you are not into what is true and what is false. You just make stuff up.

went above your head did it?

Mod edit: infraction added.

Not by me. I'm done with that line of discussion.

I mean Star Wars is for kids first, the family 2nd... ask Dave

Or George

“Remember to make these stories hopeful. Remember to give that to kids because they really need it.” - George Lucas to Dave Filoni

I knew about Star Wars but I was only about 7 or 8 when I first sat down and watched one of the films - the empire strikes back. It was at my aunts, I had to stay over alone while the family went through some ****. It has become a comfort film now, whenever I was moved around growing up I played the move while I unpacked. The rebels always had to be on the move

Maybe, Stranger is definitely popular with with the 12ish age, mostly girls though from what I hear. Mando and Obi it's the boys of all ages at least in my own circle. Which might not be representative. No idea.

Are there any viewing demographics.

Waow, what happened aha, 60 new posts. So i watched epi3 on friday...ahye i am done with this aha. I may still finish it and if I do, I will watch the last 3 episodes in one go (and with my fast forward button), couldn't care less anymore really. My official verdict for this show is 'OOF'.

Again, I don't think the actors/acting are necessarily bad at all - is just that what exactly they have been given to work with?

The biggest OOF moment for me is when Obiwan decided to leg it when he sees Vader...why??? You beat him many years ago lmao. This all ties in to the nonsense that Obiwan completely abandon any kind of Jedi training (or meditation whatever) for TEN goddamn years.

The 'battle of the century' that we all have been waiting for....just like that? It does seriously resemble to those 90s super sentai production happened at some random quarry etc (cheers Johnny's post in previous pages reminding me of that lmao). All these are just too familiar...like when we see Luke throw away his lightsaber in some other disney production SW thing...

Why and what exactly is the rationale to deconstruct (destroy) yet another beloved character just like that?? Who exactly is asking for this? 😂

I can ignore a million things wrong in this show/production but at this point this show is just depressing.

(We went on to watch the Clone wars cartoon (HD and in compilation) made by Genndy Tartakovsky - super awesome to see Anakin and Obiwan there oh god that really cheer us up. Highly recommend that. Especially back then they were mini series/short clips to promote RoTS and now they are in compilation and HD).

I was going to make a joke, then I found this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-BuOWysxmw&ab_channel=jedim4str

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87jKqWM7sVo&ab_channel=J.A.R.369

It's well established that Obi Wan, and the other Jedi that survived, basically cut themselves off from the Force in an attempt to survive, or simply because the shock of the events of Order 66 really messed them up.

Obi Wan hasn't been training for 10 years because he's been keeping a low profile, and frankly I am baffled by anyone who thinks that quick fight between Vader and Obi Wan was the big fight. It was episode 3 so they're hardly going to do the big battle so early. Meanwhile Vader has spent the last 10 years hunting down and murdering hundreds of trained Jedi. Right now, Vader is the better fighter.

They'll do the usual, Obi Wan and Vader will fight in E6 in the finale, with Obi Wan being more connected to the force and blah blah and it'll go well but not well enough for him to win.

There is so much wrong with this show, like Obi Wan destroying the pad on the gate in episode 3, instead of walking around it, or Reva's bizarrely long parkour session, but I think they're doing a good job of showing the damage done to Obi Wan since RotS

How do we know obi (and Jedi) cut themselves off from the force.

We know in one hope he still can use the force after a long time, so long he's almost forgotten his name. We in know Luke cuts himself off so they can't find him, but turns it on no problem.

I guess Obi will fill in these gaps.

That fence thing was so stupid. We were in stitches at that. But it made no sense to be out walking across across a land (visiting people) that had been cleared by the empire of people. We are not the droids you are looking for.

I'm not expecting answers. It's just full of this stuff.

I do accept that plot point if cutting off from force is the only way to 'lay low'. But how do they explain the incompetency from Obiwan we have seen so far?

Like in epi3 he called 'Leia' when they are supposed to hide their identities when the stormtroppers, god it is so frustrating to see they butcher his character in every way possible - it was a good timing to use force persuasion or do whatever cool sh!t to resolve such a tricky situation. But nope - another rando character came out and saved the day. Overall Obiwan has been outsmarted (outran ahah) by this 10yo Leia in all 3 episodes. And things like I remember in epi2 he was asking stranger on the street for where to go ffs...

All these seriously ruined my moments on legacy SW stuff - like I can imagine what went through Yoda's mind now when he saw Luke in ROJ (fecking obiwan done sh!t on training on Luke)😂😂

I saw that but it seems to be based on user reviews and not a more statistical approach. IMDB therefore isn’t capturing the under 13s

Except to be perfectly clear Obi Wan has neither defeated the empire nor liberated the universe. He’s a broken man with PTSD. Frankly, it looked like Darth Vader was just as disappointed that his old master had given up. Barely worth killing, you know?

Can you explain what you mean by McGregor “doing the best he can with what he has to work with”?

Yiu seem to be suggesting that the show is beneath him and he had no choice but to accept the script.

Which is absolute rubbish.

He is an executive producer and was heavily involved in developing the story and had the power of script approval.

So McGregor isn’t burdened with a project he doesn’t want - this is the Kenobi story he wanted to tell and this is the show he wanted to make.

What am I supposed to have done now?