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How long is it taking for Mortgage Approval for switch

  • 22-05-2022 8:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭


    Currently on a 5 yr fixed with PTSB until August .

    I applied for a mortgage with Avant in mid April and haven't heard since .I am being told that it is taking anything between 6-8 weeks for approvals so just wondering have anyone switched to Avant recently and how long did the approval take ?

    Rates are due to go up in July .Does anyone know if this is for applications which are in the pipeline as well or fresh applicants ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    My application was submitted to Avant on the 13th April. They came back with some questions Tuesday last week.

    Broker called me on Friday to say they are due to assess my application again Monday/Tuesday this week.

    You have until the 15th July to draw down to get the lower rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    Thanks , Looks like it does take a bit of time . Will have to wait then and see if it comes in time for drawing down by July .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    I was told I should be done in time. Valuer is coming tomorrow. Was told to remind the solicitor that I need to draw down by July to make sure there are no delays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Just switched from PTSB 5 years fixed to AIB 2.15% green rate.

    Whole process took 3 months and 1 week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,033 ✭✭✭✭Geuze




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭CPTM


    4 or 5 weeks to Mortgage approval when switching from KBC to Perm TSB. That's mortgage approval now, we still have some way to go with actually closing it out. Hoping to be done and dusted in the next 3 or 4 weeks if my solicitor can stay on top of things. I want to get it done before holiday season starts and people are away for weeks at a time.

    I've heard Avant are inundated at the moment..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    Thanks . That is the reason we started in April .Mortgage up for renewal in aug and we planned to take a few weeks off around that time . With all the delays it seems like we should have started even earlier .

    Hopefully we get the approval soon with the solicitor already involved ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Could be worse, I'm on my 3rd mortgage broker.

    First stopped dealing with Avant but never told us. Got us approval with ICS but they raised their rates & ended up more expensive then our current mortgage.

    2nd I submitted everything & then radio silence. Tried phoning & e-mails but not reply after 7 days so went to the third. I got a reply in their document app to say they tried calling me but couldn't get through but I never missed any calls. On the day I applied to No 3 I got an email yo ask me to phone them as there was an issue with the builders quote, didn't even call me.

    Third seems great. Really on the ball & everything is done ASAP. Going out of his way to try speed it up to get us drawn down before avant rate rise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    Jeez .. that would have been tough .The broker seemed to be upfront that it will take 6 weeks+ for approval so I think the issue it on the banks end with application volumes as was mentioned earlier .

    What I missed here was applying to other banks as the broken assured me that the approval from Avant would be straight forward .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 smallmongoose


    We had the same issue with broker saying avant was straightforward and 10-15 days once you had AIP.

    They are not and neither are brokers.

    Went sale agreed on 31st March and had AIP with avant. 4 weeks on and broker says avant won't lend because I am on maternity leave and I need an updated payslip. I return to work to get said payslip. I had already gotten a letter from my employer but apparently not sufficient.

    We loose a bit of faith in the broker and Avant at this time so we start asking about other lenders. The broker said BOI would only take 65% of salary because I was on maternity leave and that's the amount I get topper you to so no point in applying. So I applied to Bank of Ireland myself and had AIP within 2 weeks and loan offer 2 weeks after that.

    We continued with the broker and Avant and once I got my payslip after another 2 weeks provided it. Asked the broker would we have our loan offer within the 10-15 days and they said no.

    So overall waste of time going with Avant unless you have at least 3 months to play with or more likely 4 months. Seller wasn't going to wait that long unfortunately.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    I was told we'd be approved earlier this week. Told to get the valuation done early so assumed everything was OK. On Tuesday I got a call accusing me of taking a loan out without informing them.

    I'd put everything into the application so I think the broker omitted something when he sent it to Avant & tried pin it on me. We are getting work done & had wanted to top up the mortgage to pay for it but because of how long it would take to draw down we took a loan to pay for most & just a small top up for the balance.

    Asked for an update yesterday & was just told Avant are so busy he can't tell me when it will be approved. I think after Tuesday I was put back into a que again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 smallmongoose


    You need to plan for another 4-6 weeks after Approval in principal while they re-ask for all the same information and put you back in the que.

    If I were you I'd either ask the broker to lodge another application with bank of Ireland or aib or are faster just in case. Or apply direct.

    Please do not rely on 1 bank for a loan offer



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I contacted a broker on 31 January to switch to Avant. Everything got finalised this week. Confirmation letter from Avant arrived in today's post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    4 months? was there any reason it took that long, other than their workload? At what stage was it approved?

    When I started I was told 4 weeks for approval & 3-4 to draw down.

    Our survey is done & the solicitor has already requested the deeds from the bank so I'm hoping the rest goes through quicker. I'm not in any real painc to get switched so not the end of the world, I'll be annoyed if the rate increase happens before I draw down but not the end of the world if it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Emailed a broker about switching to Avant on 8 February. The mortgage was switched last week. Most of that delay was on me not following up and taking my time filling in the forms. Infinitely quicker than getting the original mortgage from KBC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭spakman


    Got AIP from ICS in March, then they put up their rates, so tried Haven instead. Still waiting decision from them, been with them at least 6 weeks I'd say.

    By the time I get AIP they'll probably increase their rates too :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    So got a post from Avant on Friday regretting the delay in processing .By evening I had a text from them confirming approval in principal and that I should contact broker for next steps . Hope we get this sorted by Mid july when my mortgage ends and Avant raises rates ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    started process early March and so much documentation is required

    Broker upload it to avant on 31st March and no feedback from them if approved and broker saying below

    unfortunately Avant’s situation is out of our control and I didn’t want to reply without having some kind of realistic guideline. I was just on to them again today & clarifications are taking 2 weeks plus to be reviewed. I know it’s crazy, but Avant Money has stopped all their marketing campaigns until they get on top of their back log & are heavily recruiting as we speak



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    I applied April 13th. Had queries 2 weeks ago, again last Monday.

    Broker called last night to say we have AIP but they want an updated bank statement & clarification on the reason for our top up before they will issue the loan offer. The broker told them already but they want a letter from us anyway.

    We're now away for 2 weeks but going to try send screenshots to see if they will accept it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Update after 2 and a half months

    "Underwriters are spending this week underwriting all returned clarification cases this being one of those"

    No AIP or anything to give us indication if accepted or if we will get the €1.5 for Legal fees (we applied before deadline)

    Hopefully get good news next week



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Applying before deadline doesn't matter. To get thec1.5k you had to draw down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    Does the draw down require both parties one to be physically present ? My wife needs to travel in july though I will be here .My Solicitor said we only need to sign sign once and be on site and I am hoping things happen before mid July ...



  • Administrators Posts: 54,420 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Nobody needs to be present for drawdown.

    Usually the only time you ever need to actually meet your solicitor is when you sign contracts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Just checked on this

    There was no requirement to have drawn down by the end of March. All we needed was have our application in before April (and not before January), be a customer of Ulster or KBC and draw down within 6 months of receiving the offer letter.

    The offer states they will pay out within two months. There is a range of 6-8 weeks for payout in practice.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Applied with Avant for a mortgage switch in Mid-march. Got AIP over a month later. Valuation report was done quickly but now I'm waiting ages for the formal letter of offer which I'll need very soon if I want to be able to switch before the mortgage rates go up. Frustrating since, based on the original timelines they gave the mortgage brokers, I should have had plenty of time. Rates going up will cost me thousands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭daheff


    Got our formal loan offer this week from Avant.......with the wrong rate on the document. Broker told us to sign it anyways. Had to tell the broker a number of times it's a legal document governing the agreement and it needs to be corrected. Eventually they went back to ask Avant for the corrected contract.

    Very frustrating experience with Avant & the broker asking drip feed for documents and having stupid questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    I'm finding the same. We applied for €15k top up & added that we also had applied hor a personal loan. The reasons were all included in the application.

    The broker phoned & tried to tell me I applied gor a loan without telling him. He also wanted to know what the €15k was for as he was unaware. Then a week later I was asked to detail what the 15k was for in writing so I sent a mail to the broker which he said was good enough. Another week later & they want us know in writing what the €15k was for.we're away now so can't upload anything until next week but how many times do I need to explain the same thing.

    Really get the feeling they are just delaying to charge the higher rate. They should have to honor the rate we applied gor since its their fault its raking so long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    Still haven't heard back from Avant or the broker since valuation report received by them . Nothing to solicitor until last week although the broker did ask for their details which means that  Avant haven't issued a formal Mortgage Offer yet .

    Heaven know how long will it take after mortgage offer untill completion or drawdown but I dont think we will have things in place by 15th July .

    We are with PTSB as of now and they have given a deadline towards the end of july with dates .Am I correct that PTSB will move us to the highest rate they have mentioned or do I have to still inform them of the current situation ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Looking at avant rates it's the 5 & 7 yrs that increased. 4yrs is still 1.95%.

    Since its looking like I won't make the deadline I'm thinking of fixing for 4yrs instead & hoping for the best with rates increasing after that.

    If rates rise by up to 1% the difference would be marginal. Time to get the magic 8 ball out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    How long are people waiting for valuation after booking it with Avant? Booked Friday, nothing back yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    I booked mine on the Friday 20th May. The valuation was done on the Monday & I think sent to Avant by the Wednesday that week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    Received Loan offer yesterday and text that it has been issued to solicitor . Lets see if we can get everything submitted before 8th July ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    How long after submitting last documents did it take?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Was that when you submitted your application or answered any questions they had?

    My original application was submitted on the 13th April. I had to send an updated statement. I uploaded it on the 12th but don't think the broker sent it until the 15th. They told me after Avant are taking 4 weeks to review new documents but before that they were coming back after about a week.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭galaxy12


    I had no questions from Avant after submission .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Notsofatso


    I have been working through switching to Avant over the last few months but today my solicitor said that they have been asked for a second undertaking which they aren't willing to do and have gone to the law society for clarification. Has anyone else had this issue?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Downsey77


    Does anyone now where Avant's offices are in Maynooth? We are signing loan offer with solicitor on Thurs afternoon and I'd rather hand deliver them than run the risk off An Post next day letting me down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Do they have an actual office there? The address we were told to put on our home insurance us a po box.

    No hope of us completing by Friday, loan was only just approved today, annoying but atleast its nearly over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Downsey77


    The PO box relates to an address in Maynooth, just trying to find out where though. Everything has to be back with them by Friday in order to draw down by next Friday, though I had no chance but loan pack turned up yesterday at solictors, so got a chance now but not optimistic it will go through in time to get the lower rate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Got AIP 2 weeks ago but had to supply them with a tax form which we have only managed to get now

    Avant have to issue a loan offer and legal pack to our solicitor (takes approx. 2 weeks) once you sign documents with our solicitor and they send them back to the bank funds should issue in 5 working days

    Also rate we are getting is 7 Year 2.25%

    Its been emotional and still not finished yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    We just got our loan offer yesterday. The broker called today to see if we can push the solicitor & seemed to think we may be able to get everything back to Avant by Friday. They're e-mailing the legal pack to speed it up apparently.

    I'm not holding out much hope but would be great if we did make it. For timeline. The documents Avant requested with the approval in principle were sent in on the 14th June. They sent another query on the 30th June (on something that had already been explained more than once before). then loan offer sent on the 5th July.

    I had been told Avant were putting more people on loan offers so that might speed things up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    The thing is, what rates will Avant change their mortgages to after the 15th? The ECB is not due to meet until the 20th to discuss rates so unless Avant are planning to change rates before an announcement is made by the central bank I don't see how this artificial deadline will work...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Before the 15th the 7yr fixed rate is 1.95%. After the 15th the rate will be 2.25%. 5yr is going from 1.95 to 2.15%. Shorter terms are staying at 1.95% for now

    The 10 year rate will be 2.4% after the the 15th, I think that was 2.25% up to then but I could be wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Did you find out if there's an address you can drop them to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    What LTV is that? Because those aren't the rates I was quoted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    They're less than 60%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Are the rates publicly available anywhere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    Increased rates are listed on their website: https://www.avantmoney.ie/mortgages/fixed-term-rates

    Rates pre-hike (so presumably those which raxy is citing) have been captured by the internet time machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20220129144109/https://www.avantmoney.ie/mortgages/fixed-term-rates



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    Been a manic couple of days. Solicitor got the legal pack yesterday morning. Then it was numerous calls between the solicitor, the broker & my parents (for child minding).

    Drove to Waterford from Dublin to sign with the solicitor after work yesterday. Took the legal pack with me & dropped it to Avant this morning. Had to leave the car in for a service too.

    Realised last night a new valuation was required which we've just been told is now completed. Uploaded a few docs to the broker last night. Just waiting for them to reply now.

    As far as I know we have done everything needed so hopefully we'll get the lower rate. I'll be delighted when it's finally finished & with any luck ill never be looking for a new mortgage again! Although solicitor said we've been remarkably fast & it's usually much longer.



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