BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

Is it as bad as Northwood residents who actively objected to a bus being routed through their estate.

When was that? The latest SHD applications had observations made by residents that it should be a condition of any planning permission given that construction should not be allowed start until Northwood Management come to an agreement with the NTA re the E1 terminus.

That shuttle route was too long, and fares were too steep as for such a local route.

Am hearing that the N4 is starting to pick up more passengers now .

Has been picking up more passengers following the St Anne's concerts and in general people getting on after the DART at killester..

A lot good feedback

What's the point of the cycle lane going down the hill. Surely it's the up hill direction that you need to have a cycle lane.

Arguably those bus routes are providing a bus service and the passengers will need to know where they can board. Adding a route plate to a TfI bus stop beats another pole and another sign being installed into the footpath and adding to the clutter.

What would be the fare and what would happen if you turned up to board one?

In the same area, when you go on the TFI app, the Crowne Plaza to Dublin Airport bus shows the departures. They used to take non hotel guests as passengers when express bus operated the route for €2. But they don’t anymore.

Is this a fully licensed service too? Could you argue that you should be allowed to travel?

The bus lane is a cycle lane - not saying it's a good idea but if they put a separate cycle lane southbound, then they have no space for a cycle lane northbound, this way they can say they've provided cycling "facilities" in both directions.

It's easier to do at speed similar to cars. You can slow your decent with your breaks.

If cyclists have to use the uphill bus lane they will delay buses and it'll be too intimidating for novice or weak cyclists.

Now imagine the amount of traffic there once the A1 gets introduced :D

Noticed alot of the bus stops in my area have their heads replaced by Green/Yellow ones and the poles repainted yellow don't see what's the point on this if every stop is going to be replaced by a new one over the next few years.

Funny thing about the 17.30 X28 is that it's supposed to depart pretty much in tandem with (1 min after) the 17.15 ex UCD - and although the 17.30 is scheduled to arrive at terminues before the 17.15, I can see why it'd be relatively empty based on just that city centre section's timings!

One of the massive problems with Beaumont is - or at least used to be! - the car park queues in the morning. Looking at the 104 timetable ex Clontarf, while the 7.47 would get stuck in Shantalla Road traffic, the 8.50 was almost invariably bound to lose time in Beaumont Hospital because of the queue of cars waiting to get into the multistory car park. Could easily reach 10-15 minutes lost because of cars coming in from both Beaumont and Coolock sides.

As somebody who commuted on the 17A from Coolock to DCU for the better part of two years however - yes, Beaumont Hospital can be nausea inducing, especially since DB drivers were less... restrained... on those corners there.

It wouldn't be so close most of the time, but it would end up in a 5-15 pattern (where there aren't running time changes anyway!). I usually would assume about 2m30 or 3m to get in and the same to get out, so that's 5-6 minutes that'd be cut out of the route.

Of course I don't approve of the idea either! ;)

Yes that's true shouldn't have been too much of an issue with the N4 though as it's not too different to the 17a which was Harristown operated when DB had it.

It's not surprising. It was planned really badly. The 67X which those buses replaced used to go from Maynooth to Belfield/Leeson St via Celbridge. The X27 and X28 now terminate at Salesian college rather than Maynooth, which is infuriating as it over halfway between Celbridge and Maynooth, so why not go the whole way to Maynooth. They are also terribly times. I've often seen three X buses to Celbridge literally directly together in the evenings, and then no further buses for another half hour. I don't know why the timetabling for the X25/X26 and X27/X28 are so poor, but there are massive gaps in services and then two or three buses scheduled to run in tandem.

On a n4 tonight heading towards blanch. Packed to the brim with revellers coming home from Raheny

They will iron out, just need more time for observations and more data.

When I tried it out between Clontarf Road -> The Point on the bank holiday Monday last week, there was bunching evident - seen 2 Blanch bound buses passing by Westwood in the ~5 minutes between me leaving the station and getting on the N4 heading to the Point.

Yeah hardly something to be worried about too much. If it was one bus every 30 mins and there was bunching then I'd be concerned but at every 10 mins hardly surprising happens everywhere.

Not to mention the potential recession on the horizon...

IMO they should probably start reducing the frequencies on certain underperforming bus routes. The L58/L59 instantly pop up in my mind, from the couple of times I've been in them the most amount of passengers I saw was around 5.