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Cult of Stephen Kenny

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    #362
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176528#Comment_119176528

    To be fair, asking the manager if his team are fit enough is little more than trolling.

    O' Donaghue has been doing that job longer than any Irish manager yet still seems utterly clueless about football or how to conduct a worthwhile interview.



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    #363
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176621#Comment_119176621

    Traps first two campaigns were really good. The football wasn’t great but the results were.



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    #364
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,978 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176626#Comment_119176626

    I'm just kidding 😏 I'm honestly not very knowledgeable on Soccer.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #365
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,479 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176559#Comment_119176559

    Very diificult wicket for any manager in that position though. Almost impossible to say anything candid without either throwing his players under the bus or admitting he doesn't have a clue himself...



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    #366
    Tom1991
    Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭Tom1991


    Dreadful again but we miss Anthony Barry badly I think it’s no coincidence our uptick in form coincided with him replacing duff and now he’s gone we’re back to Keith Andrews directing planes in to land on the sideline while kenny is begging lads to keep it on the deck.



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    #367
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 25,415 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176621#Comment_119176621

    At least Trapp qualified us for Euro 2012…. Problem with him was he was tactically a one trick pony who was far too negative tactically for the players who’d been used to playing a certain way. In 64 games his Irish team only scored 86 goals..1.3 goals per game on average.

    Kenny not only has us scoring feck all but we ain’t getting the points.



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    #368
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176643#Comment_119176643

    Neither are most of the rest of us, we just like to think otherwise. At least you’re honest about it…



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    #369
    Strumms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176617#Comment_119176617

    You are free to think so but in the absence of any credible retort aside from childish insults… I’ll leave it and you there…. 😉



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    #370
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,978 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176668#Comment_119176668

    I'd get caught out if I started talking strategy, player abilities etc 😁

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #371
    US3
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭US3


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176550#Comment_119176550

    You didn't listen to it did you? He mentioned performance and Unlucky.



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    #372
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,480 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176513#Comment_119176513

    Why is there not enough "time"?

    Are people so desperate to go back to Trappatoni ball and scrape a few **** draws here and there? Park the bus and still fail anyway because the squad is far poorer than it ever was under Trappatoni?

    Ireland has all the time in the world, it is rock **** bottom in terms of quality and only a **** idiot thinks there is any sticking plaster that will cover up that fact.

    Bollocks to results, especially in glorified friendlies like the nations league. This time now should be all about integrating new players and sticking with a style that might have success years down the line.



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    #373
    Wombatman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Get on the phone to Lee Carsley stat.



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    #374
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Ralf Rangnick took over the Austria team this week. He was asked about the pressing system and said the Austrian players are raised playing this way, to press players and doing something different would be foolish.

    Stephen Kenny is trying to win a formula one race driving a Ford Fiesta.

    If you want to improve quality of players it starts at the youth level. Needs to start from the bottom up.

    Why did Robbie Keane and duffer turn into quality? Because they were coached young! It wasn't mick Mccarthys genius that turned Robbie Keane into our record goalscorer.



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    #375
    Peter Flynt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176718#Comment_119176718

    Nothing to do with coaching.

    Keane and Duff learnt football the way all the best players do . . . off the streets.

    We don't have the players, that's true. But we are not a footballing nation. Football is the 4th sport in this country after GAA, Hurling and Rugby.



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    #376
    Tonesjones
    Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176586#Comment_119176586

    Sure this is it. The players are individually average. Some of the short passing was horrendous. These lads are kicking a football for a living yet overkick or under kick what looks straight forward. Is it panic or lack of confidence? I dont know. Ancelotti would struggle with this lot.

    The Ukrainian midfield bullied the Irish lads too. Pushed them around and got some tough tackles in . If Ireland are going to play crap well at least try and be strong to make up for it.



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    #377
    Wombatman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Wouldn't inspire a basket of puppies to chase a tennis ball. Has the charisma of a ham sandwich. Out now!



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    #378
    completedit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176732#Comment_119176732

    Duff was as far from a footballer from 'the streets' as possible.

    Coaching is everything.



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    #379
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176774#Comment_119176774

    It actually seemed like the underage setup in Ireland during the 90s was top class.



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    #380
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It's all a bit sad though because since I was 7 watching us beat England in Euro 88, Ireland games have always been a big deal for me. In the last few years I'm just apathetic towards it. Going to see Bohs the odd time and having a few beers is my football life now, Ireland just isn't working. It's just nuts that we don't have even one very good player, outfield players at least. Look at Norway they've possibly got the new Ronaldo/Messi and Odegaard, when are we due one of these? Then again you look at Rosenberg and I know they're off the footballing map these days but Ireland has never come close to that level of competitiveness in Europe.



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    #381
    Tonesjones
    Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Any of the Irish squad that are English born to Irish parents or with an Irish grandparent. The underage coaching set up here would have made no difference for obvious reasons .

    There would be a sizable number of the squad surely



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    #382
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176803#Comment_119176803

    You've actually highlighted the problem!



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    #383
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 25,415 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176801#Comment_119176801

    Yes, I don’t think I ever missed and Ireland game, even when we were playing badly if I’m away on holiday, work course.. whatever… find a pub and TV to watch and support.

    ive missed a few games the last couple of years, apathy crept in… spoofer in charge not up to it… and a limited team in terms of abilities, entertainment value and guile…. Plenty of effort and earnestness but it ends there…. Stephen Kelly caked in makeup, dressed like Clark Kent minus a phone box whilst going on like he’s won about 17 trophies and barely allowing anyone get a word in isn’t that appealing either.



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    #384
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176828#Comment_119176828

    Stephen Kelly reminds me of Peewee Herman. I was always the same, living in Oz and NZ seeking out bars to watch Ireland Georgia etc. I've just lost the grá for the team really, and it doesn't help that we've zero good players and there are no signs of improvement. I think the country will be apathetic until/if we produce a world class player like Bale or Haaland, or even a feckin Kieran Tierney or McGinn.



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    #385
    completedit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Yeah exactly. We haven't produced any good player in years, our team would probably finish midtable/get relegated from the Championship at this stage.

    That's where we're at now. A small country needs an iconic player to get behind and through them feel that the unlikely is possible. You can't even dream with this Irish team. Clearly the whole team is limited. The under 21's seem okay but still not good enough.



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    #386
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176878#Comment_119176878

    Fulham and Mitrovic would steamroll that team 6 or 7 nil as they do. Would we even compete in League 1?



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    #387
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176732#Comment_119176732

    Nah. The best players always go the route they can make money in. No one is choosing gaa over the potential career of a footballer.



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    #388
    completedit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176882#Comment_119176882

    I think we'd get promoted from League One but it's not certain which just shows how bad we are.

    None of our players that play in the Championship are stand out players.



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    #389
    [Deleted User]
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    We're League 1 standard.



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    #390
    completedit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    That's mental really. I honestly think Dundalk 2017 would beat this Ireland team when you take into account familiarity/cohesion and momentum.



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    #391
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 25,415 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Only luck will improve us, like if a generation of 5 or 6 come through at once.

    i always advocated that a government would eventually through big money at grassroots football in this country, coaching and facilities but that won’t happen…

    last budget 144 million was available for granting but 1900 clubs and organisations were granted it… across all sports.

    only on average just under 76,000 per team / organisation…would barley pay for a set of floodlights



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