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F1 2022 Round 8 - AZERBAIJAN GP

  • 08-06-2022 3:25pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭


    F1 2022 Round 8 - AZERBAIJAN GP

    Eventfull race last year with tire fails and Brake magic and Aston Poduims


    will it be more of the same ? , Will the Really really long straight show more bouncing than previous races .




    Start times :


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Probably the usual suspects up front. Fast track but usually has low grip. These cars should be fairly mega through the last sector



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Merc look like they'll have the continuing problem of bouncing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭supremenovice


    I'm tired of all the nonsense about Checo being a Championship contender now. He isn't in the same league as Verstappen. The race fell into his lap last year, just like Monaco did. I'm predicting him to be off the podium here.

    Watch out for a big race from Bottas who has genuine good form here and could sneak a podium if avoiding the carnage, and Ricciardo who has a habit of bouncing back from criticism with a big performance. I think top 6 for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Bc couldn't bring themselves to rule Hamilton out as a title contender after the last race. They just have to say these things to keep it spicy. Same with "Bottas 2.0" which went on for a few years. Nobody really thought he was a title contender either, it's just something journalists have to say to make it seem more interesting.

    Nobody really thinks Checo is a title contender and nobody thinks he's in the same league as Max. He's a no.2 for a reason. I'm sure he was upset at being treated as a no.2 in Spain, but he can't have been surprised.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perez isn't on Max's level but he's shown that he's close enough to pick up the pieces despite the opposition being so close. It would only take a few well-timed DNFs for Max and a couple of weekends where Perez is quicker for him to have a shot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    He's a certified no.2 driver at red bull. Unless max retires from f1, he doesn't have a shot.

    His problem isn't beating max on pace, which he can't. His problem is beating Charles on pace, which he also can't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I would love to see Bottas do really well here and get on the Podium and would love to see Kevin Magnussan do well to and get a podium. Really hopefully that Ricciardo can at least get into Q2 in qualifying and finish in the top 6 in the race.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭This is it


    Mick needs a good race here. I'll go LeClerc, Max and Sainz, really pushing the boat out 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Hopefully Mick doesn't split the car in two again at another street circuit, Haas surely can't afford him having another big accident this season



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,686 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    I am going to reserve judgement on Perez for a few races. I just wouldn't put him out of the title race as things could change drastically by mid-season.

    I will think back to when Button won his WDC, right place right time. and that's how I could see Perez winning a WDC.

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 665 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    yeah but he only needs Max to have a few bad rounds or to trip over Charles and he is fully in contention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Do you honestly think he could be genuinely faster than max? And if he had the speed to take points off max, do you think Red Bull would change tack and not use team orders?

    Are you looking at a situation where max has an accident and misses several races like Schumacher 99? Because that's a real long shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Unless Max gets Monkey Pox I'd say he has enough talent to safely stay ahead of checo whether that be for a WDC or a battle for 19th



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    All the the Teams with Updates for the weekend





  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If both Red Bulls had finished all races it would likely be 6 - 1 to Max on races. And Perez was still pretty lucky to get that 1 as he got Quali red flagged and burned through his tyres at Monte Carlo but you can't pass anyways.

    I'd say he has practically no hope of winning the championship unless Max keeps DNFing and Ferrari get things majorly wrong for Charles every week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,156 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Checho is a title contender the same way Rubens was a title contender at Ferrari.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    +0.363

    -0.261

    +0.086

    +0.809 (changing conditions but was about 0.5 off before that)

    +0.045

    +0.347

    -0.037

    Average gap (including Imola) through 7 races is 0.193s. He's right in there in the mix but it'll take constant consistency and a bit of bad luck for Verstappen on Verstappen's otherwise good weekends. He's a number 2 who would still have a chance at the title just in case something happens with Max, which is pretty much perfect. I thought he got off a little lightly last year when he wasn't a whole lot better than the previous team mates but the car seems to suit him well and he's driving well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    FP1 Results

    Latifi and MickShu had car trouble so no times for them




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It's not looking good for Schumacher. Too many mistakes AND not keeping up with KMag.

    KMag is OK, but not top tier. He was a good benchmark for Schumacher IF Schumacher was going to be a potential Ferrari driver. But he isn't looking like he's even as good as KMag and certainly not a Ferrari contender.

    Seems like a sound man though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Perez topping P1 interesting as it looked at one stage it would be Max.

    Anyone know what tyres Perez used for that fastest lap ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    All Drivers put in the Fastest laps on softs Grahphic only shows what Tires they used /and order of use

    Third sector is a problem for Mercedes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Why do the 2 worst drivers get no luck either?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Alonso flying in P2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    FP2 Results , Seen Alonso flying in FP2 before this season , Failed to live up to expectation yet.

    (not him really Apline )




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Gamb!t



    He had a decent P1 as well but yeah he has had a few false dawns.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Goddamn it but it's a travesty Alonso only got 2 titles. The man is unbelievable through multiple eras. Indy 500? Just put it on the second row and battle for the lead til the engine blew up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Long runs data form FP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    He's been difficult to work with so nobody really wanted to design him a title winning car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Alonso can be real picky with his words , I really disliked his final year at Mclaren where he said he was having great season beating his team mate a "former GP2-GP3 champion" ...and left out the part where he was 5-6 races ahead in upgrade parts as Mclaren tired to appease him . And Vandoorne was in a Massey Ferguson at that stage . But that's for a different thread



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Merc bouncing like nuts again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Alonso came very close on two occasions, 1 - 3 points off winning two titles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,686 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    F2 sprint was a busy one with 3 safety cars. Drivers all ok after a hefty smash on the last lap.


    Fair play to the Marshalls clearing the track very quickly.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭oceanman


    always switching teams at the wrong time.....going to a strong team just before the went downhill and leaving a team just before they came really good. just poor timing...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    That turn 8 and 9 looks tight enough from the TV coverage but on the helmet cam from lando Norris where you can’t even see the corner at all just the left wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    FP 3 has been delayed due to them having to fix a barrier which took a belt.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The BBC are saying that it's in the regulations that there needs to be at least 2 hours between the end of FP3 and qualifying, so because FP3 finishes at 1315 BST qualifying will have to carry over the 15 minutes delay.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Checo P1 at the end of FP3, from LeClerc, Max and Sainz.

    Interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Promising for McLaren. "Best of the rest" going into qualifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface



    FP3 Results





  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The porpoising and variation is really strange. The Red Bull looks fine. The Ferrari looks planted then on-board the heads are bobbing up and down furiously. Spain was a great example, turn 3 flat-out (depending on when in the race) and the Ferrari lads were bouncing through it but it didn't affect performance. Then the Merc looks like it's wobbling for 3 or 4 different reasons, it's a mess. But it certainly seems "porpoising" is a bit of a catch-all when it seems there are quite different effects and causes for different teams.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Gamb!t




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It's only practice, but Ric must be happy with that. He could really do with a good result to get the media off his back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I wonder though, despite what Dreary Benson said on BBC's free practice coverage about the two hour minimum gap between FP3 and Q1, with no support events and nobody with a big crash to repair, will race direction try to get the teams consent and get going at 1500BST as usual?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Please don’t let Johnny herbert “dance” on TV ever again.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Is that what he was doing :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I genuinely hope that dany ric gets the car working because he’s been a good addition to F1.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just had F2 highlights on, there was a crash on the last lap but delighted to say they let everyone ahead race to the line. Hopefully they'll make such common sense decisions in the main series if the need arises. :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Jesus come on already.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Should be an Over/Under market on finishing time. :P Be doing well to finish within 2 hours of the original start time.



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