Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

How can the Gardai get to enforce the laws when you're intimidating those who plan to report offenders to the Gardai with your stitches threat?

And feel free to point out where I said that "everything for bikes is good even if not legal " so I can take a long hard look at it

While it's certainly a contentious issue of policy and will get more adversarial in the next few years, it's not really a Dun Laoghaire Thread issue is it?

We do discuss specific locations in the area, but national policy debates aren't a matter for us, I suggest.

Was away for a few days and when I came back today I was delighted to see that "the gap" as its known locally has been closed at long last. I refer to the gap in the poles on Leopardstown Road at the junction with Leopardstown Avenue. No more will we have to witness the gobshites trying to make an illegal right turn to and from Leopardstown Avenue. One very happy bunny here. 😁

DLR intend to lodge a Part 8 planning application soon that will seek to permanently pedestrianise part of George's Street and that will also incorporate works to Myrtle Square. The aim is to have the whole process completed by summer 2023. And yes, it is quite shabby now but it's definitely an improvement on what was there previously, let's hope the Part 8 addresses the obvious issues outstanding.

On the contrary I thought this worked quite well brought more life into the town. And I didn't find it that disruptive to buses the routing via Crofton Road is actually slightly shorter than the routing via Marine Road and Lwr George's Street for the 46a/63/75 which alleviates some of the issues caused by additional traffic created for buses meaning its a bit of a much of a muchness.

Thought the same thing passing through on Tuesday. Trees have been removed along with public toilets and it now looks pretty sad. Having said that there quite a lot of people using the picnic benches for lunch so it goes to show if you create the space (even a shady, grotty one!) people will use it. Would be great if the planning application referred to by other posters is the reason for the hopefully temporary backwards step.

It was also fine at peak times, an attractive public space where people could get away from traffic.

BTW the fact that you drove down might be the reason that you missed the point.

If they really want to help the bees, why not plant lavender or other bee friendly plants with high quality pollen and nectar as opposed to grass, dandelions and thistles which have low amino acid content and aren't all that good for the bees. The equivalent of feeding them only on rice cakes.

You hit the nail on the head about an excuse for the council to do nothing. Just stop mowing. You'd think that they might shift themselves and put in a few wildflower seeds. Or would that be too much effort?

Fascinating to see how the Beacon managed to operate profitable billboards on Council owned land for twenty years, despite safety risks to traffic.

Article is from yesterday's Sunday Times.

It’s odd that the sign went up on public property, I’d love to know how that came about.

I’m not sure I buy the road safety reason though. There are billboards all over the city, some of them near major junctions and no one is calling for their removal.

As per reports to the Councillors at various meetings in May and June, the Council aren't going to close George's Street Lower at all this summer.

They have undertaken to prepare a detailed 'Part 8' proposal to be published around October, containing solutions to all the issues raised by this assessment report and by stakeholders. This will go to public consultation with a view to having a plan agreed for Summer 2023.

In the meantime, the approved Part 8 to do the full improvement on Myrtle Square and Convent Lane will go to construction.

Its worth noting that at the abovementioned Meetings, Councillors expressed serious concerns about the bus services and misgivings from many businesses not involved in hospitality, which will not easily be addressed by any full closure of Gs Street to traffic.

I certainly will be fighting to keep the street open to limited traffic; buses, taxis, cycles and delivery vehicles. I believe there will be more than enough safe public realm space in the area, in what has already been approved, without the unacceptable consequence of removing bus services from the Hospital and Bloomfields, where they are needed most by those who can do without them the least.

Yeah let's just wait for the Part 8 shall we? The Councillors will hear directly from stakeholders, in no uncertain terms.

I read the report of course, but I did notice on social media that even some zealots described the findings of the report, around traffic volumes and displacement, as not reflecting the "lived experience".

And really, you can have too many public realm spaces, attractive or otherwise, if they take away public transport services from those that most need them and where they need them the most.

There's many a pedestrianised shopping area in towns across the UK that are basically derelict. Not only because of pedestrianisation, certainly, but it does demonstrate that its no panacea either.