Everything you always wanted to know about electric vehicle (but were afraid to ask)

I take it from the picture, that 25 kW is available for chademo while the other side is getting nearly 43 kW? Thats nice if its the case.

Really nice would be 75kW available until the 2nd plug is in use.

How much does it cost on night rate to charge an EV per KWH?

So if I had a Tesla model 3 (big if!) how much would it cost to go from say 20% to 100% on the night rate with electric ireland for example?

In my 2020 SR+ (~50kWh battery), 20% - 80% is around 40kWh

my EI night rate is around €0.12

20% - 100% would cost me €4.80*

*over the last 3 weeks I’ve only put in 12kWh charging from the grid, so around €1.50. All the rest in that same period came from my Solar PV system (around 80kWh or 650km). Car is sitting on the driveway at 78%, so no need to charge up tonight for tomorrow’s driving, and then from Monday onwards I’d be hopeful of putting 10-20% in per day from Solar excess…..

@tom1ie - is that mostly motorway driving? None of those cars can do 400km motorway driving at 120km/h in winter without having to charge, so that's the end of the road for you there I'm afraid. Unless you are happy to stop for a fast charge on the way. Depends very much on your routes I suppose and on how often you make those trips.

@AndyBoBandy - charging from excess solar PV is bloody marvelous. I upgraded this week to a zappi (at a cost of minus €120 😂) and I have it set to eco +, with zero import from the grid allowed. I plan to charge both my EVs near 100% from the sun until autumn (I do have a rather large PV setup for someone in a small semi-d in a Dublin suburb)

You can ask a single person how much their solar setup cost, but it's a bit meaningless. You can buy a single panel and an inverter yourself for €200 in total and just plug it into a 3 pin socket - it will take the base load of your house when the sun is out in full. It will pay for itself in about 3 years. On the other end you could go with a rip off SEAI installer like active8 and spend €20k (after subsidy) for a large setup including battery. It will never pay you back what you spent. Have a look or ask in the renewable energy forum to get a better idea of what sort of setup you could get for whatever budget you have.

Hi unkel, yeah it’d be 80-90% motorway at realistically 120kph (I’ve a heavy right foot!!).

I wouldn’t mind a 15 min 150kwh fast charge stop when the battery is at a low soc (my understanding is this is when you get a high charge rate?).

However I’m mostly on the M7-M9 route from dublin to waterford and there is very little in the way of fast charging at the kilkenny/ waterford end unfortunately, also I would have to factor in the cost of a fast charge at a fast charge site (whatever that is per KWH).

I’d be making that trip maybe 3 times per week.

Also I figure that going with that figure of 300kms in winter, if I had to do a typical trip down the M11 and back up the M9 and M7 I’d arrive at the 150KWH charger at circle K M9 at kilcullen with 33% battery left (so 200kms used out of the 300kms at winter range).

How fast would the 150kw charger then charge at with the battery at 33% full? Would I get the full 150 kw?

It would only be 50kms to the house with 100kms left but just to be sure I’m factoring in having to charge to bring the battery level back up to maybe 50%, then do the rest at home.

So with 100kms left (33%/24.75kwh ), and I want to get to 50% which would be 200kms (75kwh battery in Tesla LR 50%=37.5Kwh) that means I have to add 100kms (400kms/75kwh =5.3kms per KWh), therefore to add 100 kms that’s 100kms/5.3kms= 18.86 kWh to be added. - the 150kw charger costs 0.46kwh, so 18.86 x 0.46= €8.67.

Can someone check my maths please!! 😂

Also if I get the full 150 kw how long would I take to add the extra 100 kms (18.86kwh),

so using an online calculator I make that 6 mins:

https://www.inchcalculator.com/electric-vehicle-charging-time-calculator/

Saw this on the Peugeot website. Basically they show if you drive normally, no ac at 20C you get full range. But it shows changes as well showing drop in range. Actually impressed with Peugeot information on e-cars

No real innovation except for a sloping tailgate. Be far more impressed if VW were announcing they could actually deliver their existing EV models in a reasonable time frame, especially the ID3 which would be far more useful to the majority of Irish families

Oh I agree but I think that it's a bit hollow to be making a fanfare about the introduction of a new car model that doesn't even add anything new to the existing range which they can't currently deliver to their customers. I suppose from a VW perspective it represents an opportunity to milk that customer base for an even higher profit margin while continuing to blame the war for reneging on their commitment to deliver lower margin EVs.

But as you say its not like the other manufacturers aren't pursuing the same strategy

As I said I think VW would get a better hearing if they focused on delivering their existing models to the customers from whom they have already taken their deposits and made commitments to deliver on than making a fanfare about a new model which is essentially an ID4 wearing a different belt. Obviously others will have different views

Have a look at abetterrouteplanner, it's an app or website. You put in the car type, can change weather etc to see worst case. Will calculate the best charging stops and gives times etc....

Remember the likes of Kilcullen on the MO are undersized and often full. You might be safer charging at one of the bigger sites nearer Dublin like Ionity in Kill.

Not sure in the exact route but this is for a Model 3 LR, Dublin-Wexford-Waterford-Dublin. Looks like you'd make it without stopping in summer but probably need around 10kwh in winter. Any options for destination charging, you'd only need an hour to get the 10kwh from a standard 3phase AC charger.

Thats motorway speed at 100km/hour

Cheers for that , pulled the plug on a Cupra Born a few weeks ago 😁

Surely fast CCS DC charging would have worked? They come with cables attached 😀

The type 2 to type 2 cable they would have provided charges from public AC at 7.4kw, compared to 100kw DC (e.g. Ionity)

The facelift model from 2018 onwards is a type 2 connector.

If you managed to plug it in it should have worked. The older Leaf had a very different connector and wouldn't physically fit.

Any chance they had charge timers set? If they did they would need to press the override timer button to activate the charge session, otherwise it would just sit there waiting for the timer to kick in.

You've answered all your own questions :-)

1. you don't need a type 2 cable if you are getting a tethered charge point installed. And you are right, don't bother charging your car up with a type 2 cable anywhere but at home (that answers 3. too)
2. bring granny cable on holidays or anywhere you want to charge your car overnight from a 3 pin socket