Dole 'summer bonus' .. are they for real?

The thread title is about a proposed bonus payment for people on unemployment benefits.

I stopped reading the thread as I found you and Yurts constant bickering with another user a waste of my time.

So in another attempt to get back on target, more effort should be made to make the number of unemployment recipients lower instead of incetivising them to stay on it longer.

The threads Narrative has nothing to do with SW Bonus and had you actually been following the thread you'd know this. There was no Bickering, just calling out disgraceful comments, which I note your not calling out.

Lets be abundantly clear here. The Bonus, which was not called by those on SW has rarely been mentioned, instead all that has been discussed is

Layabouts

Scroungers

Sucking the system Dry

Medical cards (Nothing to do with SW)

Wasters

SW encompasses many different things, to include illness, working family supports, Disiblities and yet not a Jot of consideration taken for those in very difficult situations, in stead, vile, disgraceful generalisations that anyone on SW is beneath contempt.

Lets not pretend what this Thread is really about.

To be fair and I acknowledge you seperating out disability, carer's etc I don't hear much if any calling out for extra financial support for those on Jobseekers payments. The Thread title uses the awful word "Dole", the actual call for a Bonus was aimed at those on SW and low incomes generally. Obviously no Politician is going to ask for extra support for one cohort depending on SW and not another.

In my humble opinion support is needed across the board, child care, Tax relief, USC removed, back to school costs etc, it's not just those on SW struggling, working people too especially those on low or reduced income.

I don't have the answers but know people are struggling, with working people now utilising Food Banks and juggling Bills.

No its not, I can assure you the Australian govenment were funding 42 inch tvs during the pandemic as my mate got one, sent me a photo of it for the laugh and he sent me a link to the Dept of Social Services website where they had a choice of 4 of them to pick from for the $600 tv allowance.

Regarding strictness of cash handouts there compared to here my mate hadnt worked in Australia for 8 years, hadnt paid tax there, hadnt paid superannuation there and yet when he flew home after losing his job in Holland he was able to walk straight into a $700 a week pandemic payment. He eventually left Australia with over $20,000 of pandemic payments in his back pocket and he lived in Sydney throughout that time too which is no cheap city in which to reside. An Irish person could not have done all that because the PUP was dependent on you being actually working here and losing your job.

So your point on Australia being stricter than Ireland when it comes to cash payouts doesnt stand up to scrutiny, they were literally throwing bags of cash at people during the pandemic to stay at home no matter how little they had paid into the system. Here anyone who spends more than two years outside of Ireland will struggle to get any payment at all out of the social welfare on their return home, they will fall foul of the habitual residency clause that is on every social welfare claim form.

Apparently if you use the phrase "people who get up in the morning" you are some sort of fascist. 🙄

The big difference between then and now is that there is now massive work vacancies available in Ireland for those who are willing to work.

Whilst there are undoubtedly loads of signs up advertising vacancies etc , the vast majority of these are infact part time , limited hours etc and Whilst not a bad thing these vacancies offer very little security, location may not be practical from a transportation point of view , again great to see them but its not black and white and infact in many cases only reduce the amount of JSA and candidate can claim not end it as its more likely they'll still need to claim a P/T Jobseekers payments or SW supports. .

Hospitality is struggling but not infact, filling part time /Seasonal unskilled rolls, its experienced , qualified professional rolls they are struggling to fill , not because of laziness its because this sector decided to let go thousands of experienced staff rather than retain on wage subsidy schemes during pandemic and to be Frank experienced staff had enough of the treatment they received generally in this sector, moved on or left country entirely. The sector cleverly thought , sure will get non EU and EU staff to fill vacancies, they forgot there's nowhere for these magical replacements to live and that aside salaries wouldn't match increasing cost of living expenses. No one in their right mind would come to Ireland to work right now.

Construction have a similar problem,but this time, there's no incentive for Eastern Europeans to come here and nowhere for them to live. Not every unemployed person is either suited or qualified to worked in construction or Hospitality, but I do accept they may be some former Construction workers still on live register.

I guess my point being, yes we hear about all these vacancies, we don't hear what they offer , some rolls highly skilled , some not so much. There's also numerous reporting of applicants applying and not even getting acknowledgement of their application

I just don't believe we can assume that just because there's thousands of vacancies advertised , few are applying and there has to be some objectivity and understanding as to why these jobs are not being filled.

It is a fundamental requirement of claiming JSB/A that the claimant must be seeking work and it is checked by way of regular reviews or through work activation programs.

I'm absolutely not suggesting there's a small cohort that don't try or may be unemployable but again, possibly for reasons not easily understood, wethet they be mental health challenges, lack of integration skills or physical challenges or indeed criminal convictions, troubled past etc . I don't believe there's a country in the world that doesn't have a small cohort of society that will never work, beyond those with Disabilities.

Construction is a young man's game. Ask anyone who has worked in it for 25-30 years, their knees, hips and backs take a battering. The mind is willing but the body isn't able in a lot of cases.