Brexit discussion thread XIV (Please read OP before posting)

Ya but we have known they are dishonest and disrespectful for 6 years now so I don't think today will move the mercury in the Dail or Brussels.

Tories don't give a shte what MLAs think. Half of them barely know such a thing exists.

Far more likely that Tory rebels have informed Boris he doesn't have the numbers.

He was trained to be a politician in Eton PoliSoc and the Oxford Union where winning the debate is winning the war and you don't actually have to worry about implementing a single thing you debated.

He seems to not realize that the real world works a little different and the debate needs to be followed through.

Got a BBC alert that the UK just published the bill. But no details yet

you know people give the EU a lot of **** for being a beuracratic nightmare, but when I want to find a treaty or regulation they pass, it might need a bit of digging but it's fairly straight forward there.

I've lived in the UK for 10 years and gov.uk remains a confusing hedge maze of bullsh*t

This is the page for the bill

but no link to the actual bill from what I can see.

there's a link to an explainer and a link to a legal assurance it doesnt break international law, but no actual this is the text of the document we are proposing with the specific changes we intend to make.

Unless (and it's possible) I am completely blind.

Neighbours from hell. Utter contempt shown to the majority of people and businesses in NI, as well as those on this side of the border. Unless and until we get a border poll, they will just continue to mess around with our island for their own selfish ends.We're just a pawn to them.

Legal action for pushing the protocol before and had been paused when medicines etc. was sorted has been restarted again.

This act of vandalism from BoJo and Co, regardless of whether it even makes it through to being actual legislation which is very doubtful, will push a lot of non Green/Orange aligned voters in NI towards a stable, responsible and EU based United Ireland when the time does come for a border poll and it may even hasten that day.

oh but it wont get to parliament. This nugget of an inside source on the guardian's report on it

"Government sources said a vote on the bill would hopefully take place before parliament breaks up for summer recess, but ministers would want to see some progress towards power-sharing returning in Northern Ireland first, which the DUP has been blocking."

Makes it sound that the government will sit on this and blame the DUP for why they wont put it in front of parliament

I'd disagree slightly over your use of 'legitimacy.' I see it as Johnson's message to the people that can throw him out of office directly (Tory party members) is, "I'll continually stir the s**t viz. the EU in order to keep the red tops on site and maybe enough to keep us in majority in government." Legitimacy is long over given the crimes committed. And eternal conflict with the EU will get old - I think it has already actually, 'it's the economy, stupid' is going to apply if it hasn't already in the last big round of local elections.

But, as someone said, what awful neighbors.

The EU shouldn't back down from reinstating the complaints regarding relaxing of restrictions. Time to start tightening the screws on this evil government.