Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

With Nunez signing, it's difficult to see Carvalho getting much playing time up front apart from in the domestic cups. Salah, Nunez and Diaz are likely to be the starters with Jota and Firmino on the bench.

Minamino got 1,016 minutes in 24 appearances last season. Origi got 598 minutes in 18 appearances.

If Carvalho is indeed going to feature up front then it's likely that he will get Minamino's minutes.

In midfield, availability is the key requirement, Tchouameni would have provided a massive boost if he had signed. Henderson, Keita, Milner and Thiago will breakdown if they are over played and that has a knock on effect on Fabinho. Jones, Elliott, Morton and Carvalho are too young and inexperienced to expect consistent performances from in the event that they are required to play for a sustained period.

Oxlade-Chamberlain got 1,529 minutes in 29 appearances. It's conceivable that those minutes could go to Jones (1,530), Elliott (585) and Morton (545).

I'd actually favour taking Christian Eriksen on a short term deal if the club's chosen alternative to Tchouameni isn't available. He has the creative quality to play in our team and if he could play 1,800-2,000 minutes during the season it would go a long way towards maintaining the levels of Henderson and Thiago. We need both of them to be at their best when they are available to play rather than tired and going through the motions and more likely to sustain an injury.

It's interesting our own new striker and City's will probably add a similar directness and aerial prowess to both teams.

Eriksen can cover for Thiago primarily but he's also a player that isn't afraid to get stuck in, unlike Jones and Oxlade-Chamberlain which makes him a good option if both Henderson and Fabinho are not available. I think Morton will get more minutes in the 6 role next season, particularly if there are two more senior players in front of him. Fabinho is not required for every game and with 5 substitutes there is plenty of opportunity to rest him with the option of bringing him off the bench if required.

Klopp was without Fabinho for the home game against Brighton last season. If Keita didn't get injured it probably would have worked out, but he was replaced by Oxlade-Chamberlain and as a duo himself and Jones let opponents by unchallenged and run at Henderson. Morton was sat on the bench watching. From what little we have seen of him in the first team, Morton is the player to introduce in that scenario rather than Oxlade-Chamberlain. He has the awareness to not let the likes of Bissouma, Mwepu or Lallana ghost past him. That's a lesson learned for next season.

Fabinho played the entire game against Shrewsbury Town in the third round of the FA Cup. Henderson played the fourth round game against Cardiff. Those are the type of fixtures that should be trusted to Milner and the young players like Morton.

Henderson played 3,876 minutes in 57 appearances.

Fabinho played 3,693 minutes in 48 appearances.

That's too many minutes for players that are vital for big games towards the end of the season.

Maddock is reporting tonight Mane wanted £400k a week on a four year deal.

That works out at just over £83m over those 4 years in wages

Liverpool will get £42.5m form the sale of Mane

Nunez will be paid just over £30m over the course of his six year deal.

Liverpool will pay £85m for Nunez

Nunez ends up costing Liverpool about £13m to replace Mane

So putting the business of running a club you can see why it makes sense for Liverpool to turn over the talent now

As well as looking at the money, you have to imagine what the situation will be like in let's say 3 years time. You'd hope Nunez has improved under Klopp and is banging in the goals, Mane might have declined significantly due to age and is earning 400k(or whatever) to sit on the bench, which leaves a starting spot that needs to be solved.

God love Lyon fans

Kinda leaning

That second goal is a thing of beauty

Bellingham in January, be grand!

30mil over 6 years? Paul Joyce in the Times has it around 43.7 mil. Signing on fee and agents fee will add another chunk on to the deal.

You're also working under the assumption that Mane wouldn't have negotiated at all on salary. Realistically you could knock off 10 million assuming he'd settle for 350k

You and I are not working under the assumption the journalists we are both reading and posting about are the ones working under the assumptions.

His move is only partly about money imo, he wants to get out of salahs shadow, supposedly his contract negotiations were I want the same as salah which meant neither negotiations could move forward.

Would be pretty disappointed to not get a midfielder this window. We badly need one and will barely have spent anything when outgoings are taken into account.

If the club are clearing out a few players with Origi, Mane, Ox, N Williams, Philips and Minamino that’s a lot of wages coming off the books with only Carvalho, Nunez and Ramsey coming in.

If Bobby and Naby sign new contracts I doubt they will get pay rises they will probably stay were they are now or like Milner take a reduction with bigger add ons

That would now gives the club a bit of wiggle room to maybe pay Salah what he wants.

Wolves ready to let Ki-Jana Hoever go, PSV are interested in him.

That was another great deal by the club letting a highly rated teenager go for £9m in part of the Jota deal.

No way Naby Lad takes a pay cut, he'd be better off doing a Bosman next summer when he'll still only be 28, sign a 4 or 5 year deal with a huge amount of the saved transfer fee going towards an inflated wage, just like Gini did and to a lesser extent Mane is doing.

Has he not got a court case hanging over him

Jaysus it must be some medical he is doing today now it is gone 5pm and still no leaning pics.

Unless, lord forbid something showed up during.

One Kiss

As well as the sexual assault court case, I don't think he would fit in under the 'no d1ckhead policy'. He's had a few run ins with the law - he has 5 speeding tickets too.

On the field, I don't think he is good enough on the ball to play for Liverpool. He doesn't have the passing ability of Henderson and nowhere near the ability of Thiago.

Spurs will suit him as he can break up the play in a pressing role from deep. Similar enough to what Kante done for Chelsea under Conte & Sarri. Spurs don't really want the ball, they just want to release the forwards quick. He won't break teams down who are defending in their own half.