The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

Donald Trump · 12-06-2022 3:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192397#Comment_119192397

Another pathetic attempt to deflect and/or attack the poster.

You got nothing Brucie.

You are on here outraged that people mention this lady's past of ripping off a housing charity over a sustained period, yet over on another thread you keep going on and on about an allegation concerning something another politician was alleged to have done as a young fella at a music festival.

12-06-2022 3:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192397#Comment_119192397

Your claim of foul treatment and how it would relate to someone in a Government party would seem flawed when you take into consideration that Bailey was a serving FG TD during the period she was getting lambasted both on Boards and mainstream media for putting herself in a predicament of her own making, then looking for sympathy whilst blaming others. Does this sound familiar?

Brucie Bonus · 12-06-2022 3:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192423#Comment_119192423

I'm calling out your nonsense. I don't need to deflect the upset ramblings of an obsessive.

Brucie Bonus · 12-06-2022 3:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192446#Comment_119192446

No sympathy at all. Bailey wasn't lambasted over her husband and living arrangements. Bailey's party were defending the insurance industry and campaigning about false claims. Her claim played into that. The attacks on Violet ann are a lower grade and beyond political.

Can you point to one other politician who gets attacked so much, so long and so broadly about such things? I can't. It wouldn't be allowed.

Donald Trump · 12-06-2022 3:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192462#Comment_119192462

Very touchy Brucie. It's hardly obsessive now to point out your blatant hypocrisies is it?

Brucie Bonus · 12-06-2022 3:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192484#Comment_119192484

Hypocrisy, another word you don't seem to get.

I say upset, you say touchy. Good one.

Obsessed in that you are labouring hard to create spin to feed your efforts at having a go. Sad. Now go off and defend another sex assault 'prank'.

Donald Trump · 12-06-2022 3:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192476#Comment_119192476

Can you point to one other politician who gets attacked so much, so long and so broadly about such things? I can't. It wouldn't be allowed.

Perhaps not a lot of them go so far as to rip off charities?

Haughey still gets mentioned for ripping off a fund for an operation for (I think) Brian Lenihan Sr. So that is one comparison I suppose.

Mick Wallace always gets a mention for ripping off the Revenue and also for stealing his employees pension contributions.

Donald Trump · 12-06-2022 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192501#Comment_119192501

C'mon Brucie. Entertain us.

Explain to us why it is inappropriate to mention about one politician's past which involved an admitted sustained period of refusing to pay rent to a charity that had provided them with a house, but it is appropriate for you to go on and on about unproven (and denied) allegations about another politician for a single incident which allegedly occurred at a music festival when they were a teenager or early 20's. The former resulted in a court judgment against the person. The latter resulted in nothing except an allegation which was denied.

As you appear to be fond of saying yourself - Sad.

12-06-2022 3:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192476#Comment_119192476

Can you point to another to another politician who complains about not being able to get accommodation having admitted refusing to pay rent to a charity for 4 yrs, or whose spouse has been found in possession of drugs? If there was another politician who did this, and released a video looking for public sympathy, they would receive the same treatment.

Apart from her attempt to claim a payout from the hotel having contributed herself to her “accident”, and then run a mini marathon a few weeks later when she was “injured”, Bailey was tone deaf and unable to read the public’s annoyance with insurance claims. Here we now have a housing crisis, but this twit admitted to not paying rent, has an income of €150k per year, has a druggie husband, but wants sympathy from the public because she can’t get a house. For her inability to read the room and lack of awareness, she deserves to be lambasted every bit as much as Bailey. Her family are where they are because of the parents choices.

Brucie Bonus · 12-06-2022 6:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192509#Comment_119192509

Deservedly so but not the same. Whats their wife's names and do they rent or buy? Have they been in rent arrears, how many kids do they have? Do their wives have a medical condition and what is it? See the difference?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192536#Comment_119192536

Not comparable. Violet deserves criticism IMO, but the level is sustained, personal and way past any policy. I've said enough about that assault. I'd be more curious as to why people like you defended it. And it wasn't denied.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192552#Comment_119192552

I don't see a connection. As I spelled out, Bailey was critical for her attempted con. We didn't harp on about her husband etc.

Violet strikes me as a complete chancer well due criticism IMO. Just pointing out how heavy and long running it is in this thread, the hypocrisy of many here and the fact that if she was a government minister the same gang would be complaining and the thread would be closed.

12-06-2022 6:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193109#Comment_119193109

Maria Bailey’s husband didn’t plead guilty to drug possession while she was an elected public representative.

Donald Trump · 12-06-2022 6:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193109#Comment_119193109

Deservedly so but not the same. Whats their wife's names and do they rent or buy? Have they been in rent arrears, how many kids do they have? Do their wives have a medical condition and what is it? See the difference?

I wasn't aware any of their spouses were before the courts or that they were going to the papers looking for help because of the number of children they had.

In contrast, it was published in March, when pleading guilty to possessing illegal drugs, that a particular individual had 16 previous convictions already at that time - most of which were for road traffic offences, including two for driving without insurance:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/clare-tds-partner-pleads-guilty-to-illegal-drugs-possession-and-driving-without-insurance-1275093.html

It says that sentencing will be on June 15th.

There is a more recent case of the same man being charged with other offences, including driving without insurance related to an incident before last Christmas. Only charged of course and innocent unless proven guilty. The report is below.

https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/partner-of-ex-sinn-fein-td-violet-ann-wynne-facing-seven-alleged-driving-offences-41663495.html

If things are in the courts, and in the paper, people are entitled to comment on them. Same as any other story. It's not as if they are rooting through your man's bins to find out secrets. Don't be kidding yourself that if it were any other politician or political party that the papers would not be printing the court reports. As regarding medical condition, that has apparently been trotted out as an excuse rather than a case of someone surreptitiously finding that out and publishing it.

It is also relevant to the story (put out by an individual themselves) that they are having difficulty in obtaining rental accommodation. You have to put things into context. Yes there is a shortage of housing, but if I had a house, I'd be very slow to rent to people with such a past record. Surely you would be too? Anyone on here who would criticise a landlord for not taking a chance on them can put themselves forward as a personal guarantor for their rent if they wish. The lady currently has a well paid job, but it is not a stable job and it could be gone at the next election.

Feel free to nominate any government minister, or any other party politician, who has been in the media for the wrong reason and it is likely that I won't back them up.

Edit: Here is another example of the son of a former politician who was in trouble and it was published in the paper as such:

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/oliver-callely-copper-face-jacks-17371147

You say that people keep going on about that lady. One way to stop that would be for there to stop being new stories related to these things in the paper. And a good way to stop that is for people to try to stop getting into the trouble in the first place.

Deeec · 12-06-2022 7:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192476#Comment_119192476

Violet Anne posted on social media last week about her families 'housing' problem. She posted a video of herself talking about her problems and bizarrely mentioned that her husband was been harrassed by local gardai. She then paraded herself around every media outlet who would have her and discussed her problems further. Its absolutely fair that her personal life can be discussed here or publicly. She has bought this information regarding HER PERSONAL LIFE to public attention. She only has herself to blame.

Donald Trump · 12-06-2022 8:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193109#Comment_119193109

I'd be more curious as to why people like you defended it

I'd be more curious as to why people like you defended that allegation Brucie?

(You defended it more than me. I never even commented on that incident. The only mention I made towards it was to point out the hypocritical posters who made a big thing about it while trying to hush up other incidents.)

Geuze · 12-06-2022 8:15pm

Why doesn't she apply for a mortgage and buy a house?

12-06-2022 9:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193673#Comment_119193673

Possibly because she still believes in SF's promise of a free home for anyone who wants one! Don't forget that if she hadn't accidentally become pregnant or if Mary Lou had sent her a bigger box of chocolates she'd still be in the party.

hynesie08 · 12-06-2022 9:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193673#Comment_119193673

I'd imagine the banks first question would be if you won't pay 63 euro a week in rent why will you pay your mortgage.

Canterelle · 13-06-2022 9:47am

I really don't care what political party she was in, but am outraged by this woman. It is the sheer brass neck. She can't find accommodation because no-one will rent to her. Instead of looking at the reasons why, she thinks its a good idea to go on social media and blame the housing crisis. She is actually doing a "poor me, this is the housing crisis, I need to be given a 4 bed house". Everyone knows that income over €150k pa can get anyone accommodation!! I could rent a 4-5 bed house in Clare in the morning with that income. But I would have landlord references.

Obviously her tactics have worked before, so I guess she thought it was a good idea to chance it with stupid old Joe Public again. Huge miscalculation Violet Anne!! And everyone has a right to be critical, and to voice that criticism. I feel sorry for her children.

BnB · 13-06-2022 12:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193673#Comment_119193673

Without getting personal about it, she hasn't a hope of getting a mortgage. A mortgage application isn't just based solely on what you are making right now. It is based on how long you have been doing it and the stability of the job going forward.

So even though she is well paid now, she didn't work in a decent paying job before it and come the next general election, as a first timer TD, there is a very high chance that she won't get back in and ultimately would be left with no way of repaying the loan. Any mortgage approver who would sign off on that would probably be fired.

Brucie Bonus · 13-06-2022 1:35pm

She's a chancer. The fact that she's a working class chancer, means she can't get by on the nod and wink cute hoorism we allow the more seasoned generational political chancers away with.

Geuze · 13-06-2022 1:35pm

But surely as SF support is rising, and there is talk of them getting two seats in many constituencies, she is nearly guaranteed another five years?

13-06-2022 1:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196570#Comment_119196570

Just being a chancer and having a sense of entitlement means she will be well placed to flourish in a SF Government. Unfortunately for her, her stupidity peaked to early.

L1011 · 13-06-2022 1:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196574#Comment_119196574

She is no longer in SF so won't get the vote that goes to the party name not the person (as an aside, that party vote often just gets given alphabetically - there is a very recent study on the SNP showing it and it's well known in FF/FG here) so W would be very bad to have as your surname initial anyway!)

She is not a good public rep

If she runs again she won't get in

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 1:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193109#Comment_119193109

I may be wrong in my recollection, but aren't you the poster who started a whole thread about John Bruton's son?

Or did you just criticise him on it? You know, that son with problems, who did something (was it tenuous anti-semitic links that were dubious?) and you tried to make out it meant that the whole FG party (of which he wasn't a member) was anti-semitic as a result?

Someone already mentioned your unassailable levels of hypocrisy, but I think you outdo yourself on this attempt to play the hit me with my family in my arms ruse.

However, while you are on the subject of Sinn Fein TDs who don't pay much rent, you could tell Violet-Anne to get onto to John Brady, you know the Sinn Fein TD in Wicklow, who is also on a salary of over 100k plus multiple expenses, and who holds on to a local authority house with illegal modifications at really cheap rent preventing a person on the social housing list from accessing it. He could tell her a trick or two to get by.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192536#Comment_119192536

I doubt you will get a response to that post.

Brucie Bonus · 13-06-2022 2:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196638#Comment_119196638

This is you:

This has nothing to do with party politics,

This is also you:

Just being a chancer and having a sense of entitlement means she will be well placed to flourish in a SF Government.

There would be no sustained drill down on a government politician. And the ones engaging in it here would be the first ones flagging and complaining.

She's a chancer. How much on going attention do we need to point that out? My interest is only in the curious case of those obsessed with a minor opposition indie who's likely gone next election day.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196716#Comment_119196716

You are wrong. In fact I don't even recall any stories about him. I know of one FG'er who openly admires the fascist blueshirts.

Zero hypocrisy. Like your fellow traveler you are trying to compare apples to horseshite.

Wasn't on the subject of SF. She's not in SF. What a false laboured segue. Your point is I can't comment on your unhealthy obsession with Violet ann because it relates to your unhealthy obsession with SF. Funny.

13-06-2022 2:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196812#Comment_119196812

This is me saying her predicament has nothing to do with party politics, it is self inflicted, this is also me saying her former party wants to ban evictions, had she not peaked, being the chancer she is, she might have been there for life if SF are elected. Two very different points relating to politics.

As I stated earlier, Maria Bailey was drilled mercilessly, and would be again if she runs for election in the future. Our continued interest in her is for similar reasons to Maria Bailey, they both keep trying to use the media to blame others/absolve themselves.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 2:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196812#Comment_119196812

You say that your only interest is in the "curious case of those obsessed with a minor opposition indie who's likely gone next election day".

Essentially, then, you have nothing to say on the subject of Violet-Anne Wynne, but lots to say about other posters. Got it.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 2:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196812#Comment_119196812

I thought I might help your memory. Here is the thread:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058212507/former-fg-taoiseachs-sons-links-to-extreme-right-wing-sect

In Post number 10 on this thread, you say and I quote:

"The op clearly was giving reasons for speaking on a politicians family."

So, obviously, you do believe that there are good reasons for speaking on a politician's family.

Then in Post number 11, you say and I quote:

"So you cool with the former YFG'ers antisemitic racism?"

So, not only do you believe that there are good reasons for speaking on a politician's family (but only if it is a FG politician's family), but you then go on and make libellous statements about said politician's family.

I think your post number 15 in the thread speaks volumes:

"I didn't read anything other than him explaining why he felt it was okay to speak about a politicians family member.

The son was obviously harking back to FG's roots."

Maybe you should stop digging now.

Brucie Bonus · 13-06-2022 3:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196993#Comment_119196993

I think you are finding random historic quotes to support your clinical whataboutism.

Firstly, tackle my comments about Violet and this thread.

Secondly, again, these two are not remotely comparable. The son of a party with fascist roots engaging in fascism is a stand alone incident. Did it go into his wife or girlfriend, if she had a medical condition, how many kids they have, their living situation, over a few years? Stop digging.

How long did to take you to find suitable random posts to help you deflect from actual on topic comments I made? Obsessed.

This line of 'discussion' would have been closed long ago had Violet been a government minister.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 3:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197151#Comment_119197151

Rubbish, pure rubbish. You are completely exposed as a pure hypocrite.

Stop with the pretence of moral superiority over other posters. Your rabid hounding of John Bruton's family puts everything said about Violet Wynne's in the shade. Even then, you can't find a factual point to disagree with.

Remember, you defended her failure to pay rent, you defended her bankrupting a charity, you defended those who bullied her out of Sinn Fein, and you defended her Padraig Flynn moment in lamenting her poverty. Nobody has to mention her family to point out the wrongs you have defended.

As for wives and girlfriends, you say that this discussion would have been closed long ago had Violet been a government minister. Well, I remember a government minister whose private life was put under so much scrutiny by some of the most disgusting posters ever, that one of them named themselves after his partner.

13-06-2022 4:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197151#Comment_119197151

We have gone now from government TD to minister. You should have seen the threads about Golfgate.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 4:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197455#Comment_119197455

The record of that poster is clear, I have posted the links, family is fair game when it is family of a FG politician, but not when it is family of a SF politician.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 4:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197455#Comment_119197455

There is another thread on here where Eamon Ryan has been called a creep, and I don't see Brucie doing the same policing job over there.

Brucie Bonus · 13-06-2022 5:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197221#Comment_119197221

You can claim that, with no evidence. I can't stop you. You are dodging my comments regarding the likes of yourself and this thread, which I imagine is the point.

Brucie Bonus · 13-06-2022 5:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197455#Comment_119197455

Again, based on an incident as with Bailey and anyone else you care to throw in. My comments stand.

13-06-2022 5:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197671#Comment_119197671

So you claim it wouldn’t happen, or be allowed to happen to anyone else, yet MB, a serving Government minister, a Supreme Court judge and a European Commissioner all got slaughtered on Boards for their crass stupidity. Your comments are demonstrably absurd.

Brucie Bonus · 13-06-2022 6:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197755#Comment_119197755

How many times horse, seriously?

You are giving examples that support my point. Ministers, what have you, tackled and criticised for an incident. Wynne, harangued for years, with her own thread, going into details about her husband, kids etc., for years. You are welcome to it, just commenting that its obsessive and if it were a government minister or Councillor or whatever getting such a forensic going over, for years, the same people attacking Wynne would be claiming mysogny and living in your head and so on.

Its a curious case. Have fun.

Donald Trump · 13-06-2022 7:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197151#Comment_119197151

Well Brucie. Common sense would say that a person cannot help whom they are related to. You cannot choose your parents, nor can you choose your children. (e.g. when another politician's son gets into trouble, I wouldn't necessarily hold it against them).

For example,

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30982487.html

or

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/healy-rae-brothers-given-suspended-sentences-for-chip-van-assault-1.4106928

(I already posted a link about Callely's son). It would not be fair to automatically hold the parents to account for any of the foregoing. )

You cannot choose your relatives. You can choose your friends and your romantic partners. The people with whom you voluntarily choose to associate with would be generally a better indicator of your own character than those you happen to be related to. Again, you apparently think the opposite to most people in that regard.

13-06-2022 7:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198040#Comment_119198040

Brucie, Ms Wynne keeps bringing her husband and children into the public domain, she used them as props a few days ago when complaining about her self inflicted plight. Her husband is in the public domain because he is a self confessed druggie who thinks it is ok to drive without a licence nor insurance. She is a public representative, so of course her actions and her husband’s are going to be commented on by the public.

You keep saying it wouldn’t happen to others, when there is evidence to the contrary as I have pointed out politicians from other parties who have been lambasted on boards. Another one that comes to mind who was lambasted at the time was Verona Murphy for her brain dead comments on immigrants being infiltrated by ISIs. If they had used their spouses as props, and they had convictions for drug use or pending driving offences, as sure as god made small apples it would be commented on.

The only reason Ms Wynne is newsworthy, and comment worthy, is because she keeps making herself so, and not in a good way. First rule of politics, when you are explaining, you are losing, she explained why LLs might be reluctant to rent to her, non payment of rent and a drug conviction, she is losing public sympathy.

Donald Trump · 13-06-2022 7:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196570#Comment_119196570

The fact that she's a working class chancer

What makes her, or doesn't make her, working class? All that I saw published about her background is that she was a Protestant from Kildare who went to Trinity. She may or may not be. I genuinely don't know anything about her other than what was published.

None of that has any kind of negative connotation of course, but I never saw anything that claimed she had a working class background. It's not really relevant for the thread, but seeing you brought it up, I just thought I'd ask for clarification from you.

Donald Trump · 13-06-2022 7:40pm

Driving without insurance is a very scummy thing to do.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 10:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197667#Comment_119197667

No evidence?

I have produced the evidence of your hypocrisy in relation to John Bruton's son and the way you led the attack dogs on that thread. Hypocrisy par excellence.

I have reminded you that the partner of Leo Varadkar was used by one poster as a username, in some kind of weird fetish against Leo. Thankfully, that poster quickly disappeared back under its rock once it was exposed, so at least you can't be accused of hypocrisy on that one.

However, you have been exposed as attacking the son of a politician while crying and whinging when you allege that the children of Violet-Anne have been attacked (though I really don't see it, certainly nothing like what you said about John Bruton's son).

I have also demonstrated that your claim that a Government minister wouldn't be subject to such an attack is completely false by reminding you of the time some bottom-feeder named themselves after Varadkar's partner.

As for myself, I stand over every single post on this thread. I have called out Violet-Anne Wynne for bankrupting a charity, for refusing to pay rent and for her Padraig Flynn attempt to claim poverty. I have called out Sinn Fein for the way they bullied her out of the party (nobody deserves to be bullied, no matter what they have done). I have called out her partner for his criminal convictions for drug possession and driving without insurance (did you apply your lofty standards of innocent until proven guilty to Bruton's son?). Finally, I have called out your rank hypocrisy on the issue (and I only confined that to the Bruton's son issue, not to the multitude of other examples of your rank hypocrisy). Not a single apology for any of it.

blanch152 · 13-06-2022 10:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198299#Comment_119198299

I am sure there are many good republicans driving without insurance as they don't recognise the Free State jurisdiction.

Brucie Bonus · 14-06-2022 1:01am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198236#Comment_119198236

You still here? :)

Brucie Bonus · 14-06-2022 1:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198267#Comment_119198267

You pointed out politicians who got criticism for things they did. Nothing close to what Wynne gets. Just saying. And as I said, if it was a government politician the same ones haranguing Wynne would be crying mysogny.

Wynne is a disaster. Wouldn't vote for her in a fit. Just commenting on the depths some of you go to.

Brucie Bonus · 14-06-2022 1:13am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198975#Comment_119198975

Not comparable and not me in any case. Simply not in the same ball park.

This old chestnut. You claim someone was haranguing varadkar over his sexuality and no admin or mod noticed it, but you did but can't supply any evidence? Okay....more historical irrelevance. You've got deep rooted issues horse.

14-06-2022 6:12am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119199336#Comment_119199336

Eh, go over and read the Maria Bailey thread, her father, who is an interesting character was widely commented on. Incidentally, you yourself are the most recent poster on those 72 pages, so you know the thread I am talking about. Looking back over the last few pages on this thread, it is your posts which are driving/extending it.

Which posts do you feel are misogynistic?