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JFK Assassination Autopsy Details Revealed After 55 Years

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    What's the point of taking you seriously when you dont know the facts. O. P. Wright, head of security at Parkland Hospital and former Dallas cop, gave a JFK researcher a bullet

    This is the bullet he gave a JFK researcher in 1966. Told him the bullet found on the stretcher looked like this.  


    Looks nothing like the Carcano bullet that appeared later after it was handed over to the secret service and later the FBI. Darrell C. Tomlinson, who found the bullet, wasn't asked by Specter, "Is that the one you found?" Wow, like any competent lawyer would try to confirm this was the same bullet!!

    The Warren Commission only called witnesses who agreed with the lone gunman story. Even though he was head of security and the man who was given the bullet to keep, OP Wright was not called here. Either was Dr Joseph Dolce, who was in charge of the Warren ballistic tests, he strongly disagreed that one bullet caused all the wounds. The Warren commission wasn't interested in voices that didn't back up the lone gunman theory. Withheld his report for ten years after the Warren commission finished up.  

    Quote from him" one bullet striking the President’s neck, the Governor’s chest and wrist, should be badly deformed, as our experiments at the Edgewood Arsenal proved.”

    Warren Commission didn't care about the truth, it was just for PR and to hide the fact that Dallas had more shooters. There's plenty of evidence that Connally wasn't hit by the bullet that exited Kennedy's throat. Videos and witnesses, and expert testimony prove it. 

    Check your facts because a lot of hospital staff said there was a hole in the windscreen, big enough for a bullet to pass through. I've seen people interviewed on this, but I have to look for the videos again.  

    Obsession about the bullet leaving Kennedy's throat must be the same one that hit Connally. 

    Connally's shoulder wound is 1.5cm, so how did the bullet tumble sideways? You don't want to talk about this, because you know its a flaw.  That 1.5 cm wound shows the bullet was stable and came in at an angle or slight deviation. There's no reason to believe the bullet was unstable and moving all over the place before hitting Connally. Connally entry wound support this. In the Zapruder film, Kennedy was hit by a bullet and then Connally was hit. On film, there's no evidence that both men were hit by the same bullet. Their own experts disagreed with the Warren Commission, so they kept those reports quiet. The bullet that hit Connally seems to be a different caliber, so why they switched that out goes a long way to explaining that other bullets may have been found in Dallas that day and simply removed 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Cowardly timewaster.

    There was no hole in the windscreen by the way. There was a crack.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Onlookers and doctors and nurses saw a hole in the front windscreen. After the Limo left, he'd have to trust that nobody tampered with the glass later. 

    Here's a picture that's supposed to show the damage. It looks like there's a small opening.While the limo was parked at the hospital, I can't confirm what the people saw is this , but they went up close and saw a hole, not just a crack. This is an official image 




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Drag everything down to absurd granular details. Evade questions. See something in a photo. Never explain the conspiracy.

    Notice how it's always the same deceptive M.O.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    It was a crack.

    Two large pieces from a 6.5mm bullet - confirmed as having been fired from Oswald's rifle - were found in the front seat of the car. This is what very likely cracked the windshield.

    In addition, James Altgens first photo shows no damage to the windshield before the head shot so it couldnt have been from an earlier bullet. The one you claim/made up. His 2nd photo (after the headshot) is the one that shows the crack.

    So no, the bullet couldnt have passed through JFKs throat and out the window.

    Another little fact, brain and blood matter extended as far forward as the hood of the car.

    So - 6th (and last) time of asking - if a different bullet hit Connally, where did the bullet that passed through JFKs neck go?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Where's the photo? He took the photos as the car passed the TSBD before the shooting even started. One of his best photos was when Clint Hill jumped on the back of the limo, but the event was over at that point.

    Please show the front of the car between the two shots?  

    Please link me to the story about the 6.5mm bullet pieces found in the limousine? Either way, it doesn't change the fact that Connally got shot by a different bullet. I don't know if Kennedy got hit in the back with a 6.5mm bullet? I argue that the bullet that hit Connally came from a different rifle.  

    You don't want to listen to what I said about what could have happened to the bullet as it exited Kennedy's throat numerous times. You don't even answer my complaints about how a bullet that's 3cm long could tumble sideways when the entry wound on Connally's shoulder was only 1.5cm. The single-bullet theory was discredited weeks ago because you guys believe the magic bullet left Kennedy's throat and hit Connally sideways. You can't deny that you uploaded a picture with the bullet going sideways, causing a 3 cm entry wound. Unfortunately for single bullet theorists like yourself, the wound of entry was 1.5cm confirmed by Connally doctor Robert Shaw,.  



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Look up the Altgens photos yourself.

    Look up the bullet fragments being found yourself.

    You've no problem finding the most irrelevant infinitesimal details in the depths of conspiracy cranks websites but when told about the most widely available information out there its "oh show me a link" while still dodging basic questions.

    Garden varierty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    But conspiracy theorists don't like to do their own research...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    There's a cover-up when the Warren commission starts hiding the work it commissioned.

     As said previously.

    Dr Joseph Dolce, who was in charge of the Warren ballistic tests, strongly disagreed that one bullet caused all the wounds. The Warren commission wasn't interested in voices that didn't back up the lone gunman theory. Withheld his report for ten years after the Warren commission finished up.  

    Quote from him" one bullet striking the President’s neck, the Governor’s chest and wrist, should be badly deformed, as our experiments at the Edgewood Arsenal proved.”

    It was actually discredited by their own expert's single bullet theory, they put a lid on it. If you live in your bizarre world, everything is done right, there are never bad actors in the west if it's the Russians, of course you believe it then. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I think Aliens shot JFK, from 16 different angles, but I can't provide any coherent details of it, only suggest it through denial of the event.

    That's the level we are at here.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    You've done it again. No photo. Just tried to sound smart and failed. You want me to confirm your bullet fragements in the limo? Can't you just do it yourself? Please share the link.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    That was in 1964. Technology can help.


    Look at this from 1hr 16 mins. Shows how the same bullet could do the damage. Its more deformed but thats because it hit 2 ribs. Still a whole bullet. Case closed.



    And no, Google the basics yourself you time waster.

    But if you insist

    https://lmgtfy.app/?q=altgens+photos+jfk&iie=1



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    You're debunking your own theory. In the second picture, how would the bullet look if Connally's ribs were shattered and hit its right wrist bone and then his thigh? Ignoring the fact that the magic bullet hit Kennedy back and exited through his throat, too. If that's the deforming caused by hitting just ribs that shows you that single bullet theory whole lot of crap. 

    The first bullet is bent out of shape and is very deformed, from just hitting ribs..

    This is Altgen's first picture.


    Trying to be clever, but failing. The picture was taken near the TSBD, nowhere near where the shooting took place, that's why you wouldn't post it, and I knew why you kept deflecting on it.. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    If that's the deforming caused by hitting just ribs that shows you that single bullet theory whole lot of crap. 

    The ballistics test fired a bullet through a mock up of a neck, chest (inc ribs) and a thigh/wrist.

    Again, you obviously didnt bother watching it. It proves the SBT is possible.

    Time waster



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    The bullet didn't hit the wrist or thigh. Once it left the second mock-up chest, it came to a halt and the bullet was deformed, like in the first picture. Let's just ignore the fact that their bullet was deformed and bent out of shape. For a test to be successful, it has to look like the bullet in the archive. This bullet went way too low through his chest bone. Kennedy's throat wound was much higher. All it proves is that bullets can move through gelatin and hit another mock up of gelatin. Doesn't really explain anything.

    In the Moorman photo there is good evidence of a second shooter at the Stockyard. There's definitely something there that looks like a man with a hat on and a rifle sticking up in his left hand after Kennedy's head got pushed over to the side from the headshot. A witness saw the hardhat man in the stockyard just after the shooting. Unfortunately, the heavy shadows in that area blocked his face. You can see a rough outline of someone standing there.   

    Up close now.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol cheerful is seeing things in photos again...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    At least two standout anomalies.

    Two circled in green and red. There's something behind those fences that's taller than the top of the picket fence. I'd say it's shaped like a person standing watching, at least on the right ( red circle). A lot harder to figure out the left anomalies, looks like some kind of work hat or railway cap. Too bad the resolution in that area was bad. The position of the anomalies is over a picket fence so it's some background stuff and not a tree. The shape in the red circle has the shape of a human being, Can see the bush clearly in the background, not that.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol maybe it's the same guy with a giant mirror in between?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Using an old low resolution photo aswell. These photos and vidoes have been digitally enhanced years ago and guess what - theres no one there.

    And even if there was, the Moorman photo is a split second before the headshot and Cheerful thinks the shooter is aiming the rifle into the sky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭King Mob




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,505 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    With the fence and the bushes in the background, you can tell this image is something else. In old pictures of the grassy knoll there are no hanging features behind the fences, it's just an open parking lot. The shape behind the fences is human-like. The area of the photograph had a lot of shadows, but you can still see the image, even the enhanced one., I'd not bet lot of money on that person holding a gun, but it most likely was someone looking out over the fence.

    People found footprints behind the fence after the shooting, and witnesses saw a guy dressed in a suit and another guy wearing overalls and a hat. According to an eyewitness who looked from the bridge, the man in the business suit used a gun, passed it to the other guy to take it apart, split it into two pieces, and put the pieces in some tool kit, and walked off. 

    He is real because a motorcycle cop ran into him not too long after the shooting and he flashed a fake badge to the cop and was let go. The man was never heard from again, it's weird how there's a guy with a fake badge in the area where people thought the third shot/fourth came from. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    The same "human like" shape is there after the shooting. Look at the Willis and Betzner photos. Same "human like" shapes. Its a shadow.



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    looks like some kind of work hat or railway cap

    "Hay, guys, check it out.......there's a blurry bit of the photo that looks like nothing other than a blurry bit of a photo...........but I think it happens to look just like a construction style hard-hat (which are almost always white or yellow) or maybe even a railway cap (which are almost always black), even though it couldn't possibly look like both at the same time, seeing as they're different colours and different shapes..........but would ya look at that, my theory happens to be identical to the prevailing theory that I just outlined where witnesses saw a man in a hard-hat leaving the scene.....Wow!.....what're the odds!!!!?!".

    Would you GTFO of here with that rubbish, FFS.

    Not only are you ignoring the fact that the guy allegedly seen in the Moorman photos is known as the "Badge" man (not, you'll notice, The "hardhat" man), but you're literally just circling splotches of a photo that don't even look like anything. I mean, have you even circled the correct location of the badgeman in that photo? You're making this up as you go along, aren't you? This is a repeat of the guy holding the mirror in the 9/11 pics, isn't it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Badge man doesn't exist. His alleged placement (red line behind the white wall) doesn't make sense. 


    Anyone shooting a rifle there is going to get noticed. Zapruder was in the green marked area, with a clear line of sight to see if there was a shooter. 

    Witnesses in and around that area saw a business suit-wearing man and a railroad worker. There's no doubt about the business suit guy because the motorcycle cop who ran to the grassy knoll after the shooting saw him flashing a fake badge in the parking lot behind the fence, and the cop let him go. This man in the suit disappeared and was never heard from again. When you flash a fake badge in an area where eyewitnesses say the fatal headshot came from, you're probably up there for a reason and it's probably some operation.

    He was the shooter or the person watching the back of the shooter. The guy flashing a fake badge is explosive information seems to just got ignored for whatever reasons. You debunkers don't get it. Cop on motorcycle thinks the guy was a secret service agent but the White House denied any secret service agent was stationed around the fence. Who that man was and why he did not show up again is a mystery. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    CIA connections aren't weird at all, even if he passed info along to J Walter Moore? Moore worked in the Domestic Contact Division of the CIA.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/10/23/cia-is-expanding-domestic-operations/7e62ab9b-8c1c-4202-b7bd-44b3fb6931c0/

    George was clearly running some operation to handle Oswald or feed the CIA info. It's alleged he shot himself in the head before he could testify to HSCA. 

    Eyewitnesses who saw strange things that didn't match the official report started to die in car accidents and in a short time from illness or suicide. 

    Oswald worked for a company that did contract work for the CIA. His friends seem to all have ties with the CIA. The man had experience in military intelligence, he went to the Soviet Union and came back without being interrogated, and he even brought his wife back from Russia. He had fake documents and fake ID in his wallet. He went on weird trips to Mexico. When he was arrested, he wanted to call a North Carolina intelligence officer from the Dallas jail, but men in suits wouldn't let it go through. All the things Oswald told the police officers when interrogated disappeared. Then he ends up dead on tv. This story makes no sense. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Theres no evidence it was a fake badge.

    Head of security for the Texas trip Mike Howard:

    We deputized everybody we could get our hands on -- including agents from ATF [actually the A&TT, the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax investigators -- the forerunner of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms], customs, border patrol, reserve police, deputy sheriffs, etc. The motorcade route in Dallas was crawling with these people, especially in Dealey Plaza and the overpass.


    So no, there may not have been Seret Service there.But could have been any of th above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




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    Lemme get this right.......

    Badge man doesn't exist.......

    But you are claiming that "hard hat man" does exist? And he was in the exact same spot on the Moorman photos that badge man is said to be?

    And there's another, separate "badge man", who does exist and who really assassinated JFK, but got away with it?



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