I think justice was served here.

It's a tragedy for the kid to be sucked into all of that. Occasionally followed it and the gang factor seemed at the core of these two men defending themselves. The case needed to be brought but there were so many chaotic elements to it that IMO it could never have found for murder.

The certain witness who robbed tge bike originally would probably do more damage than anything else to the prosecution.

What do you mean??

they choose to go for murder, it fails but it is probably manslaughter, off you go

ok, they can step it down to manslaughter as a option but didn't

The scum in Dublin and other places who attack and rob the innocent need a good seeing too, glad the jury saw it this way also.

i think the jury was given options

murder

manslaughter

release

obviously murder has a very high threshold

The jury had the option of not guilty of murder but guilty of manslaughter.

He told the jury to consider each of the four counts separately and that any verdict they reach must be unanimous.

In relation to the murder charge there are three possible verdicts: guilty of murder, not guilty of murder but guilty of manslaughter, or not guilty.

It appears he spent the last 18 months in prison waiting for the trial, I assume he will get compensation for that loss of liberty?

'Sucked into all that'? Pull the other one.

How long has this poor guy spent in custody dealing with this nonsense?

Give him a medal and compensation. Fund it with sackings at the DPP.

Id be inclined to agree with the OP , It was right to take the case in the context but i also think it was the correct outcome ,

its a very sad example of the idea play stupid games ......... shame it cost a life

I suspect the Brazilian gentleman will be heading home or else where regardless.

the situation requires much more resource and manpower poured into city center to make it safer for everyone , decrease fear and increase confidence.

I tend to view the death of a 16 year old as a tragedy, even in this scenario. One can do that and also believe that justice was done.

I think it would have been a shame for him to be sent to prison. I think his actions from end to end were heroic. Standing up for his friend and facing down a group of teenagers outnumbered while his friend was on the ground in a vulnerable position. I lack an ounce of sympathy for the teenagers in question who bit off more than they could chew, and would have kicked and punched those two Brazilian lads until they were bored if they hadn’t met any resistance.

Justice was done imo.

I wouldn't be delivering anything down there tonight

just goes to show how little regard and trust people have in our Gardai and by extension the overall criminal justice system that they are now forced to go and sort their own problems out with weapons.…

Whether it was vexatious or not, the DPP equally have no way of proving that he would have absconded or stayed for the trial, but he was imprisoned anyway. I don't know why it took so long to build a case, or if either side was responsible for it, but 500 days seems ridiculously long to me.

That makes sense. Booking flights is about the worst thing you can do. Better off to offer the passport at first opportunity and hope they allow bail in such cirsumstances.

Claire Loftus finished her term last November.