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Cult of Stephen Kenny

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    I didn’t notice. since the SA World Cup it’s been positively serene



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭_NAGDEFY




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Good performance. Such a shame we blew it against Armenia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Good performance. Pity the team couldn't get the win, but none of the usual suspects will have much to criticise overall.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭_NAGDEFY


    Was that nearer to the first Ukrainian team?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,277 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Kenny really is a magician, fair play to him for getting them guys to play positive passing football.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,759 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Great performance tonight.

    No sitting back and trying to sneak a goal on the counter after absorbing constant pressure.

    Great to see lads spraying balls across the park. Always pressing forward. No fear. Great attitude.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,792 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    A team dead on their feet still constantly pushing forward looking for the win, an absolute breath of fresh air.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭_NAGDEFY




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Shite defense. **** it, sure England shipped 4 without reply tonight can’t be that bad..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It was a spirited and confident performance with a great goal scored, in a match where not many seemed to have much hope going in. Have a bit of positivity for a change.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    No, I’m not having that marking was awol then they all get sucked toward the ball. Wanted to be able to say top of the group, who’s not being positive



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭briany


    You can not have it as much as you want, but that was a much better performance than most of us were expecting in a game where not many were giving the team a chance. That's something to try and build on and gain confidence from.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    You need to get in that Kenny headspace. See the bigger picture; moment of madness and a lot of good work undone



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Well, Kenny just said it himself. He was disappointed with the concession of the goal, as virtually any manager would be, but you can tell he's keen to learn from that mistake. So let's take that into the Autumn and see the team win its last two games.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    a week is a long time in politics, well the same could be said for Football - what a turnaround from this time last week 😶



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Theres been no turnaround from those who want Kenny gone no matter what. He has a team playing good football and we must stick with him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i'm sure Gareth Southgate would gladly swap places with him😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭briany


    At the end of the day, Kenny's getting the support from the fans. I must say that I've found the level of support he's getting quite surprising, given that in all the time I've been following Ireland, I've become used to the knives coming out for any other manager who's gotten the results that Kenny's gotten so far. There just seems to have been an upwelling of grassroots support for Kenny in recognition of his ambition to get Ireland playing a more positive kind of football, and recognition that this won't be successful overnight or even particularly soon, so he's getting lots of time and patience.

    But there are a reliable cadre of malcontents who are miffed at this and throw their toys out of the pram and just lash out with, "Well yiz are all in a cult!" They were hoping for a stick-the-knife-in party, a sacrifice to appease the footballing gods, poor craturs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭ceegee


    Bazunu, Coleman, Doherty, Duffy, Egan, possibly Omobamidele missing from our first choice team. There was bound to be the odd slip up at the back.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,243 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I'm expecting two horrible losses out of the gate in autumn

    Then an odd win or draw to paper over the cracks.

    Rinse and repeat.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Look at the players we have.

    How many of our squad would get in to the likes of a top 10 team? Collins, Bazunu maybe.

    The kind of mixed style is our best hope as in pass it around a good bit but don’t be afraid to fire in a few long balls as well as Parot and Obefemi have shown they can contest a 50/50 well.

    We don’t have outstanding players like the two Keanes, Duff, Whelan, Townsend etc anymore. We don’t have an outstanding midfielder that can dictate the tempo of the game.

    The level of player we have needs to over-perform to be competitive

    The real issue isn’t the management rather the conveyer of young talent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭Masch8933


    Very good performance last night, Kenny does deserve credit for this as well as criticism for how we started this window.

    If Ireland could find consistency (and keep all of our squad fit) we could give the qualifiers a good rattle.

    We need more strength coming off the bench which carry a threat, Robinson is just so poor and Ogbene has energy but no real quality but that sums up our current set

    At the back we are very strong, I know Collins got the headlines but I thought Lenihan was very good also. Both are better than Duffy for the way we want to play I feel.

    I know there will always be those who will hate Kenny because of the backing he has got but how refreshing it was to see an Ireland team play football against a good side and continue to push for a winning goal instead of the last 20 years of sticking everyone behind the ball and hoping for a corner, free kick or goalkeeper assist to score a goal. Its the way forward



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,243 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    No

    Another poster put it better than me.

    They are scraping along the bottom with the odd spike like Saturday and yesterday and that lifts them off the bottom then they drop down again and continue to scrape along the bottom.

    Mayo on the other hand cruise near the top but never actually reach the top, and rarely drop from their cruising altitude.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,257 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I way prefer this style of play with some signs of progress, regardless of some bad results, than the years of hoofball trying to scrape 1-1s and the odd heroic 1-0 to qualify for a tournament where we'll just embarrass ourselves with the worst style of football that no one plays any more. 2012 was pointless, 2016 we were thumped by Belgium and only drew with a very average Swedish side and had a gimme against that Italian team. I'd like to keep King Kenny for years to come and keep this style of play and hopefully some top players emerge sooner or later, because until we get a few of those we're not going anywhere anyway regardless of whether we get in Big Sam or not.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭Masch8933


    I would argue the opposite, up until Armenia the team had had 14 games with two defeats to two top class teams in Portugal and Serbia. The defeats with the seemingly weaker teams are blips that need to be ironed out, as Ireland find it hard to break them down (because we dont have the quality players who can do it against defensive teams against us) and then we get hit by amazing sucker punch goals.


    I would class Mayo like Icarus but soon the wings are going fall off for good



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Even with a win we wouldn’t have been top of the group.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Blame LiveScore; had us top while we were leading.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Yes because the computations are so difficult to work out yourself.



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