Dublin Pride ends media partnership with RTE over Liveline's Gender Identity discussion

I wish it was a spoof.

A cursory glance at her Twitter feed regarding this Liveline matter reveals far worse besides.

it's definitely a difficult and complicated subject. That's what makes it interesting to discuss and debate.

The problem I have is that this subject is almost always shut down.

Behind a pay wall. 😤

Agreed.

What matters is the cost of living crisis; how people can pay their bills; housing and the lack of it; the Ukraine war and its global implications; and so on. Normal issues that affect the entire population: both gay and straight.

This niche, which seems an almost upper-middle-class issue, appears to infect everything with the debate of how much of a victim certain people are regarding LGBT issues.

It's why I keep making the central point that ordinary, decent people will turn against LGBT people / rights issues, if this kind of nonsensical issue is raised almost incessantly.

When the term " ,make amends for this situation" is used does that mean we want€€€€€???

5,000 trans people in the state,and 4 days coverage devoted to it on liveline

With greatest respect to the transfolk,that level of coverage seems extremely excessive per head population.

As with everything, it's a question of power.

The LGBT community has been supercharged with power because of their recent successes. Those successes have been absolutely worthwhile and necessary - such as normalizing gay existence in society, and equal marriage, and so on.

But what is now happening is not linked to the above, but rather an over-reach of power.

Power doesn't just give up power. When it has it, it keeps it. It keeps striving for more, and more, and more, and more. All we're seeing now is an example of precisely that.

Them were the days of common sense.

Last week I identified as a brick... I had to build up to it 😀

For a people who want tolerance and equality its interesting that the multi lettered community so often fails to show it.

I think part of it is to do with power, or rather influence. The influence they have over their own community, their internet presence, and the influence to tweak the interest of media or other organisations. But the bigger side of this is how to remain relevant.

All the major fights have been won. The LGBQ community is firmly established in society, and while some people might be uncomfortable with open displays of that sexuality most of society has accepted that it's time to move on. Equality is here, and those rights are protected. Yay!. Brilliant.

However, what do people whose whole life has been focused on activism/advocacy/outrage do when the battles are won? They find a new enemy, or reinvent the problems again. The same thing happened with feminism. They won. Equality was accepted and protected, and they couldn't stop. So, they went further with feminism, while also (and here's the important bit), adopted the causes for other groups who they considered marginalised... and began to be activists for those crusades. (while retaining their validation from their older crusades/movements)

The LGBQ community did exactly the same with the T. Transgenderism is not about sexuality. It's about identity, for the most part, which makes it dramatically different from the old LGBQ movement. Also, the numbers of T were miniscule, even compared to the numbers of Q. And yet, they had captured the attention of people in the US, and that made them worthy of being supported. And then, the LGBQ community fractured, with many advocating for the T, with the remainder just getting on with their lives, while being mildly irritated at being directly associated with the T.

The activists, leaders, spokespeople, etc are all fighting to stay relevant. That's it. Otherwise what would they do with themselves? (apart from the rather lucrative aspects of activism if you can build a following, which isn't that difficult when outrage is your voice).

Definitely. 😘