Dublin Pride ends media partnership with RTE over Liveline's Gender Identity discussion

So they instantly cut ties with the national broadcaster because it allowed Irish people to express opinions and viewpoints which they didn't like?

That's a very important distinction.

For example: there are prominent trans women - such as Blaire White (1 million+ YouTube Subscribers), who are openly critical of what trans activists are saying/doing on this question. There are lots of other trans women - including Rose of Dawn and Debbie Hayton, who are equally as critical.

So when we talk about "trans", it's imperative that we don't lump everyone together and assume they all think the same things. They often vary quite considerably. Trans women / men and trans activism are two very different things.

The same is true for many gay and bisexual people who are critical of some aspects of trans activism, too.

I can appreciate the desire to change your identity, especially when life isn't working out. That's especially true in the current climate of others needing to walk on eggshells to avoid offending the person undergoing the change. Makes it easier to find space for yourself in a rather hectic and often cruel world.

However, it boils down to some simple personal experiences for me. I've dated ladyboys in Asia, which has a much longer and established (unlike the west) relationship with Transsexuals, and has managed to integrate them into their societies. Somewhat. The problem though is that even though these partners are rather feminine in their behaviours, they're not women. There are repeated differences in how men and women behave in relationships, and when intimacy is being exchanged. Yes, individuals are all different, with their own unique attributes, but.. there is a commonality of behaviour due to similarities in culture when it comes to sex/gender across all cultures. The traditional perspective of how men and women behave exists everywhere to some extent, and that feeds into how we develop as adults. It shapes how our personalities form, and how/what we value in our own lives. It shapes how we react to hostility, fear, anger, etc.. because in society, men and women are treated differently. That conditioning matters.

All the Trans people I've met transitioned as teens/adults... and it shows. They're both feminine and masculine. In public they're mostly very feminine, because they're putting on a show, and even in private with a partner, that show continues.. but more masculine traits/behaviours come out in private too. They developed as a child/teen/adult persona (and a wealth of experiences) as that sex, in the world they lived in, and then.. changed their physical attributes. But the past experiences and persona remain, even if they wish to be their opposite sex. There is also the problem of the hormones that they take, which tend to have... consequences on their emotional states, which is revealed in their behaviours. (I've heard guys complain or make jokes about women being unpredictable or emotional.. but wait until you've dated a Transsexual still transitioning.)

Wibbs raised the point about not knowing what other men feel about being a man, or how he feels himself about being a man. Grand. Although, I would say that having a penis is rather... influential in determining and maintaining your identity as a man. Sure, it doesn't define us (that's the desire to jump to extremes), but it has enormous impact over time in how we view ourselves and others, as a man. It has impacted on our interactions with others over time, and that also translates into how we developed as "men". I'd imagine a vagina would the similar for women because of the regular reminders of their sex.

Transsexuals are different from men or women. Their identity (whether artificial or natural) is different. Their behaviours are different. And the rake of problems they have with themselves (which we all have) are different too. Because Transsexuals are different. They're neither men or women, but have created an entirely "new" state.. and should be treated as such. With respect and equality, but not the same as men and women... just the same that a man and a woman are not treated the same. (Dunno why there is such aggression about all this. A simple recognition of two new genders, separate but treated fairly.. but that's not going to be accepted).

Now... I'll avoid the transgender debate because I think it's mostly baloney. That someone can change their gender, with a snap of their fingers is rubbish. No different from a human claiming to be a faery and expecting others to accommodate that belief, adjusting their lifestyles, and behaviours to suit. Besides which, the advocates on boards for Trans rights, tend to be extremely aggressive and abusive, and there is absolutely no value in engaging in any kind of discussion with them.

As for RTE, nothing will come of this. They'll revert back to their incredibly biased, woke/leftist stance the first moment they can. I wouldn't be surprised to see a LGBTQXYZ history month come out of this, as a sop to ease the outraged, while reaffirming the position RTE has on all "marginalised" groups.

I take it that you haven't spent much time around feminists, woke activists or PETA supporters? (which tend to attract more female members than males)

Men are naturally more aggressive due to the chemicals in their bodies, but most men learn to control the aggressive impulses. However, society and social conditioning also encourage aggression or hostility in people and women are not exempt from that conditioning.

Anyway, most of the Trans community would be rather quiet and unassuming. Pretty much the same way that homosexuals were in the past. It's the Trans advocates/activists who are aggressive, fanatical and hostile. You should consider quizzing those on boards with strong pro-trans views as to whether they are Trans. I suspect you'll find that the vast majority aren't trans but are protesting/promoting on their behalf.

Even when you further online, looking at twitter bios, or whatever, you'll find that few of those protesting so aggressively are Trans themselves. They'll have their pronouns up, or whatever, but they won't be actually trans in their own lives. We live in a world where people assume others causes, and make them our own.