Dublin Pride ends media partnership with RTE over Liveline's Gender Identity discussion

RTE had no choice.

What did “make amends” actually mean? Financial donation? Favourable coverage? Editorial influence/approval?

Could have been more like a shakedown than a request for apology. Dublin Pride have made a huge miscalculation here.

RTE aired views that many people in this country hold on both sides of the argument. Censoring one side should never be seen as a solution.

Same thing happened with Feminism, they have turned into superiority movements

Exactly. You don't see too many FtoM trans people threatening to kill, rape and ruin anyone who questions their dogma.

My point isn't anti men. It's saying that some (not all!) of these trans "women" share an awful lot of characteristics associated with "toxic masculinity", which under the circumstances is pretty ironic.

You’re conflating racism with transphobia, when the parameters of so-called “transphobia” are much more hotly contested than those around racism. I don’t think it’s a like-for-like comparison.

Surprised there's no protest outside RTE.

I'm saying that that's a small and somewhat egotistical minority that gets reflected as the majority. Most trans people are happy wit the term ciswoman (oddly, it's cis people themselves that get upset with the term "cis")

I never said anything about a biological woman....? I'm talking about different prejudices, but the strength of the prejudice - not the biological origin of it.

See post above: I'm putting forward the idea that a similarly voiced prejudice with the same sregth wouldn't be tolerarted as well by the listeners. Would it?

I think most transgender people are fine with that, so long as they're treated with basic respect. Most of the argument seems to come from a lack of clear lines and definitions for things and that's taken advantage of by a small minority who live on Twitter. You could spend infinitely more time just arguing the parameters than the actual thing itself. What is a woman? What is a male? Because that could be a bottomless philosophical rabbit hole, you will get pushback to the tune of "A man has male genitals and woman has female ones. End of." and the sparks fly (mostly on Twitter, to be fair).

I think this is one of those arguments that has made some people go literally insane,

....so probably best not to get too invested.

See reply above.

What percentage of women (you know the real ones) do not have a womb or uterus (and I don't mean women who have had them removed) ?

And yes we know some women cannot procreate, would you mind telling something we don't know. 🙄

They do not want to appear like a woman on the outside because they are and always have been a woman both inside and outside.

Ehh seriously WTF.

Are you now claiming that a guy with a cock and balls is like a woman on the outside?

I just love how you guys just completely throw biology and anatomy out the window to suit your narrative.