Dublin Pride ends media partnership with RTE over Liveline's Gender Identity discussion

TENI have had their set of problems - two CEO's (I think in a year) and no accounts - thus the funding being dropped, which Segways me nicely to... the Pride statement. Look, they took a stance and it's their call. I'd love to know the discussions and the 'bargaining' that happened over the last few days with RTE.

The statement was aggressive/defensive in its tone and seemed to miss that many 'topics' are debated over the media and not everyone will agree with them. Over the years I've listened to some particularly offensive (from my stand) on the Palestine/Israel debate - I never took up arms on either side! But, what really resonated with me was the line "how they will make amends for this situation" - seriously, it spoke volumes - aka - "we didn't like the debate and want to be compensated on some way for being offended by it/some public opinion"

If you want to be compensated for being offended in some way, come to the Hill with me Sunday week and go home a millionaire!!!

so it's ok for transphobes on to air there hate speech should we let nazis on liveline to tell us whats wrong with black people?

Can I ask why, why is it so important that the maternity legislation stays as women? Men can have maternity leave too yes?? What's wrong with person?

Also, I'm part of the LGBT community. We don't all think/say/feel the same about issues that affect us within our community. In fact there are extremely different viewpoints, especially about trans issues in the past few years. We aren't as cohesive as you may think we are.

A lot of our community don't speak for me and my friends so just think about that before you label us all the same.

You see that is a good point, that most of wider society would not have heard.. Methinks there's a value in publicly talking about these things...

The American centric nature of these types is the most worrying thing. Like how in the world do the Proud Boys have anything to do with this? We saw the same on the other thread the last day too, where Trump supporters were somehow injected into the topic. Society as a whole would be better of if all these types moved to America, as it's clearly so entrenched in their minds, that they might as well live there.

Also, the whole "if you agree with a bad group on anything you're a bad person" stuff, is seriously infuriating. Yet it's a very convenient tool, as it allows them to throw any and all dissent into a radical box. "You have a problem with gender ideology? Well, you're just like the Nazis".

Are there many Women transitioning to being men? or more men wanting to transition to being women?

This a whole new section in society, right at a time when identity was never as prominent, modern society seems to have a deep need to label everything and everyone.

On the issue that most debate is about Men transitioning to women is because societal norms expect that most violence, sexual and otherwise that is visited onto women comes from men.

The incessant screaming from the trans community that inhabit our airwaves seems to be you must listen to us, what we want is the only thing that matters.

This is a big issue and needs careful consideration. It is a whole new area of society and answers need to consider everyone in society.

As a gay man I'm constantly having to "debate" how I live my life. And I don't exaggerate that either. Every single day....

People in the community that are much older than me have had to debate about their gender/sexuality for 60/70 plus years. That's a long ass time to "debate" about one's life.

They don't want to debate anymore. They're sick of debating. They just want to live their lives. I don't totally understand trans people. I never will because I'll never have to go through it as a gay man. I don't always agree with with them either or with other issues in my community.

But I do agree that we've been debating about it for a long long long time.

But I also understand that debating these issues is necessary as people don't understand these issues because they themselves don't live through them.

See post above (although I see you point about being labeled transphobe)

There was nothing comparable to racism on the show so no

You really really need to go learn what racism is before you open your mouth again, there's a big difference between perfectly sensible people questioning why we should rip apart all societal norms for an absolute minority compared to actively hating people for the colour of their skin.

It's not unexpected to see this comment though, all you guys have in the end are the bully boy tactics of throwing labels and slurs around when you get any bit of pushback or request for a debate.