I think justice was served here.

Huh? No we categorically know that Mr Bento was not being a scumbag. You know the whole trial where the entire incident was shown to the jury?

Never suggested the deceased instigated anything, but he did escalate the violence.

He willingly part took in violent and aggressive behaviour.

Now one can paint him as a scumbag or a gentle lamb, doesn't really matter, what he did was caught on camera, what he did were not actions of someone of good character.

we know the sequence of events. He didn't become involved due to circumstances. He approached Bento and his friend.

He decided to get involved.

yeah, we seem to be agreeing furiously.

I think if you accept the jury's decision regarding the case you should also respect the judges decision to deny bail. The justice system worked well for once. I guess people can refer to the deceased as a scumbag becayse of who he is was surrounding himself with and his action on that one day but hard to know if he had killed Bento, who was wielding a knife, with his one punch would the young kid have also successfully escaped a manslaughter charge because of self defence.

I think if you accept the jury's decision regarding the case you should also respect the judges decision to deny bail

Judges decisions are not infallible, regarding bail they have been overturned on appeal. Most recently in a case involving a quite affluent barrister.

Now I can someway understand the Judge denying bail in this instance, although he subsequently proved to have grossly errored in his judgement, I can not respect the DPPs decision to indict on murder, there were absolutely no path, none, zero to a murder conviction in this case.

It was in effect a Trumped up charge, one hopefully they will have to explain in due course.

the title of this is "i think justice is served here" about a child being stabbed to death it says it all about the people celebrating i think

Justice being Bento being found not guilty.

I never suggested otherwise. The Judge errored in denying the liberty of an innocent victim, I have already explained how that basic human right should be weighted at the forefront of any decision. As I referenced the pregnant baby murderer and how the High Court Explained it in her bail hearing.

My point was to the OP was High Court Judges decisions on bail are not infallible, as evidenced recently by an affluent barrister getting the Court of Appeal to overturn the High Court Judges decision.

My second point was he should have never been facing a murder charge, unless you want to take a go at explaining the path to a murder conviction beyond doubt given the evidence the DPP clearly had?

The deceased has been referred to as a scrote, a scumbag and one of rhe feral youths. That does seem a bit unforgiving and provocative for someone without a criminal record of any sort. Its not like people are referring to Bento as the killer.

He was denied bail in the Hight Court, he went to the court of Appeal and got that High Court decision overturned.

He was granted bail, subsequently whilst on bail he got his bail conditions temporarily relaxed to go on holidays with his family.

Ruling on Diarmuid Rossa Phelan’s bail application, president of the Court of Appeal Mr Justice George Birmingham said the accused man enjoys a presumption of innocence and as part of that he enjoys a presumption in favour of bail

There is that phrase again, the "presumption of innocence".

The reason he was rejected bail in the High Court.

The associate professor of law at Trinity College sought bail in the High Court last month but his application was rejected by Ms Justice Deirdre Murphy on the grounds that he was a serious flight risk

powerful incentive to evade justice” based on the seriousness of the charge, the strength of the evidence, the likely sentence in the event of a conviction and alleged ongoing threats to the accused

Hmmmmmm.

Well, here is the issue, and something that needs to be looked at.

Stealing the bike could be viewed as scumbag behavior. But, a person retrieving the bike and in the process, brandishing a knife against the thief could be seen as scumbag behaviour. Bento brandished a knife straight away vs one teen/person.

Then Josh and his friend(s) came upon the scene and the confrontation kicked off. Bento again had the knife out and began using it to stab people, when the prosecution argued this was OTT.

Regarding the CCTV and it being shown. So what? It's a CCTV video that can never really show/explain and feel what happened. It all happened so quickly.

I do not believe murder was committed, but Bento, from what I have read on this was reckless with a deadly weapon during those few seconds. Yes, his defence team argued self defense, but the prosecution argued OTT; and a short CCTV video cannot definitively answer this.

Hypothetical, and something I touched on....

If some innocent person got involved here to try help/defend/diffuse the situation, is it ok that the knife-man kills this person using the excuse that he didn't know who the innocent person was, and was only defending himself....?

Would this be manslaughter at least?

This is the kind of dangerous precedent I feel is being given here