General sheep thread

Yea, just home, it was interesting.

Very environment and climate change based which lost me.

Take home message was ''the only way that wormer resistance spreads farm to farm is in the belly of the sheep'' stressing the importance of double dosing (with zolvix plus one other wormer) bought in sheep. 60% of sheep flocks now are getting poor results from ivermectins dosing.

Good magement practises reduces greenhous gases, carbon emissions, it's not rocket science.

Philip Creghton admitted that oversowing clover was diffcult, only successful way to get cover into swards was reseeding

Zolvix will be no addition either, farmers will abuse it and we'll be back to zolvix being useless as well. That's why the clued in vets are slow to let it out.

We're still getting 100% kill here with yellow and clear doses.

The frightening thing is you'll never get it off the farm and once you have it it'll keep getting worse.

Regards weaning lambs, mine are march born, few April, should they be weaned now or would it set them back a bit, ewes going through all my aftergrass, some lambs ready to go, but few light ones too

got great results from yellow drench this year, , most lambs only dosed once .

I find william hutchinson the best for maternal type texels, he also does his best to keep out texel throat. We always got a good long life outa his rams

I know he culled all his texel hogget rams one year when he discovered that line was prone to it.

He's in Kilkenny

He's breeding from rams that have the texel throat gene so be careful, the breedng that causes it are used in a lot of flocks, aneighbour lost three rams out of three, don't know where he bought them and a friend lost two out of two, which incidentally were both alexs' rams

Thanks wrangler, I'll look into that.

Want to try and get one bought early and try and have a good pick. Lost a Texel here a few years back to that Texel throat, ya could hear him before ya saw him towards the end.

Would people top fields in wet weather. I've a field could do with topping and a neighbour has a couple of fields he wants done

Thanks faraway

Have a batch of lambs 45kg.

Not sure whether to bring to the mart this week or hold off a while in the hope that price will come back up and also they will be heavier in another few weeks.

Opinions please ?

It's probably better to use a yellow or clear dose, the white doses are practically useless on most farms now for Trichstongyles.

Yellow and clear doses are failing on a lot of farms too so it'd be a good idea to test again after dosing to see if it's done the job.

Test a week afterdosing with a yellow dose or test a fortnight after dosing with the clear dose

OH does it, gerry scully had a farm walk here years ago and he was warning about wormer resistance then, OH got interested and gerry got the slides and beakers for her and there was a really old microscope where she worked and she thought herself how to do it, At the time the kit to buy was £1200. She's done loads for local farmers, she doesn't charge anything and any money that's given used to go to bothar !!!!!!!!

No sheep has come in here since without being quarantine dosed, only for that I'd say we'd be out of sheep especially at our stocking rate but the yellow and clear dose are working 100% still on our farm.

Loads of youtube videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vELgijcad4

OH stands in the field and waits for the lambs to shite and then takes a marble sized bit from each shite, important to get as many samples as you can, maybe up to ten

We tested for a neighbour this week that used a white drench same as albex two weeks ago. dose obviously didn't work yet he said they were thriving,

They're on meal since they were born yet they're not fit to kill, I'm killing same age lambs now and they got no meal.

No one can advise you whether to dose or not without a test

we retest after 4 weeks . we dose when the FEC reaches 500

Resistance has been around a long time, years ago there was talk of NZ using combination doses, yellow and clear together, which if abused meant you got double resistance quicker, Adult sheep get resistance to worms, it's difficult to believe that scientists can't get somethig for lambs to help them achieve immunity

https://www.cotteragritech.com/smartweight

Have you seen these guys anywhere yet, they have an algorithm that'll tell you whether to dose lambs as they're going through the scales based on liveweight gain, weather, grass growth,

Sounds impossible, but we've seen llambs here with good liveweight gains despite high worm counts at times.