Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

ok so if the wind is wrong for 10R or 28L nothing can get in or out ? ACDM had 6 jets waiting with engines turning on taxiways Wednesday evening and lord knows how many more waiting for the word.

Perhaps I am wrong but by your statement a 2nd runway brings no benefit to this situation as there will be no point taking off at all until ACDM says to go

The 34 intersection departures or lining up to 34 from 28 were very useful for the short UK hops to MAM, BHX, LBA, LPL, EDI, GLA etc of which there are very many first thing between FR EI and the now Emerald.

When the dual ops were working it was a great sight to behold early in the morning getting the first wave out promptly. Very little delays. A very useful tool that other airports would avail of if they had such an option.

Please tell me that it was only the camera that was upside down 😉

The taxiways including the 16/34 crossing have been built for ages now.

They are building a new taxiway from DN/C/DS on to 16/34, as I said in a previous post.

Thought you meant 10L/28R

I would have thought that my post answered that quite clearly?

OK, firstly that depends upon which flight path you are referring to.

But. leaving aside the planning restriction over the night time operations, which is currently under appeal:

In simple terms, one runway will be primarily be for landings, the other for take offs, rather than one for both. That means that there will notionally be the capability for greater numbers of landings and take offs.

So, with a normal wind prevailing from the southwest, the landings will be on the existing runway - that means that runway could cope with far more landings using the current flight path, and the takeoffs will be on the new runway, which will mean that the flight path west of the airport from the existing runway will see far fewer flights, as they will be further north.

If the wind is from the east, then the reverse applies, the flight path to the east from the existing runway could see more movements, while the flight path from the west will see fewer numbers coming in to land as the aircraft will use the approach to the new north runway.

Now it is one thing saying that the airfield can cope with more landings and takeoffs, it is another saying that the airport as a whole can cope with more movements. That's dependent on aircraft stand availability, terminal capacity, staffing levels etc. At peak times pre-Covid there were times where no stands were available and that caused backlogs.

But as a general comment, I would certainly be expecting airport movements to increase with the opening of the new runway, but given Covid and everything else, it will be a slow and gradual increase.

Quite so, but there may be exceptions of course - but the planning permission requires that to be the normal operating procedure.

None of this is new information and has been posted here several times over?

Also for the foreseeable future both runways will only be in use for 2 hours, the other 22 hours will still be single runway ops.

A359 can get off a wet 28L/10R at MTOW on an ICAO standard day using TOGA.

But yes one would hope the West Coast A330s and other performance limited aircraft can use the full length of the new runways when required, to do so increases safety and reduces environmental impact.

I am really struggling here with what you do not understand. I've put in VERY simple English. I shall try again:

Assuming absolutely no change in the number of airfield movements overall, then :

When the wind is coming from the west:

• Aircraft landings, which would be from the east, will remain primarily on the existing south runway as now.
• Aircraft take offs, which would be towards the west, will be primarily on the new north runway (Switched away from the existing south runway)

When the wind is coming from the east:

• Aircraft landings, which would be from the west, will be primarily on the new north runway (Switched away from the existing south runway)
• Aircraft take offs, which would be towards the east, will remain primarily on the existing south runway as now.

Read the link that EchoIndia has posted.

Assuming no change in overall movements at the airfield is unrealistic I would suggest - over time they will increase.

Not a chance under normal operations. The only exception during normal operations would be for an A380. This is strictly part of the planning permission for the runway which the DAA are appealing.

The latter. The airport is currently a mess (no hsit Sherlock) and this is the best that can be done to get it open in time before the planning permission runs out.

Thanks.

And also...

Relax. Its just the internet.