Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

The Cycling Books Thread - Discussion, Reviews, Recommendations Etc.

Options
12346

Comments

  • Options
    #152
    ckeego
    Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭ckeego


    G1032 wrote: »
    +1. Great book.
    Also The Escape Artist by Matt Seaton.

    The Escape Artist is a cracking read. One of my favourite books of all time. Expect to laugh and cry.

    I read Jonathan Vaughters book One Way Ticket last week. Great read, particularly how he got into team management and the struggle to find sponsors.

    Great to see this thread resurrected!


  • Options
    #153
    The Noble Nudge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    Just finished reading the book on Shay Elliotts life.. Well worth a read (Im sure its mentioned here already),

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shay-Elliott-Irelands-Yellow-Jersey/dp/1874739595


  • Options
    #154
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,052 ✭✭✭✭neris


    This arrived in the post this morning

    20200525-161710.jpg


  • Options
    #155
    Mercian Pro
    Registered Users Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Mercian Pro


    BorrowBox is the public libraries app for free ebooks and audio books. I could only find one cycling audio book - Wide Eyed and Legless and it wasn't up to much. Plenty of other good audio books though to while away the hours particularly if you don't have a screen near your turbo/rollers/exercise bike.


  • Options
    #156
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Mercian Pro wrote: »
    BorrowBox is the public libraries app for free ebooks and audio books. I could only find one cycling audio book - Wide Eyed and Legless and it wasn't up to much. Plenty of other good audio books though to while away the hours particularly if you don't have a screen near your turbo/rollers/exercise bike.


    Wide-eyed and legless is on of my favourite cycling books, up there with A dog in a hat and Bating the badger


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #157
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Mercian Pro wrote: »
    BorrowBox is the public libraries app for free ebooks and audio books. I could only find one cycling audio book - Wide Eyed and Legless and it wasn't up to much. Plenty of other good audio books though to while away the hours particularly if you don't have a screen near your turbo/rollers/exercise bike.

    I tried listening to some Margaret Atwood while flogging myself in a turbo session. Neither was easy and hard to keep focused in either.

    Though I got into a weird turbo zone and finally read Sometimes A Great Notion which has absolutely zero relation to cycling but is is a thoroughly tremendous if time demanding book.


    Anyway, I'm within the public libraries and it's slightly different depending on what authority you're a member of. You can use your card anywhere, but you need to have a say Cork card number for some items. That said there is a huge amount of crossover.

    Dublin City's only one is ok me called Midlife Cyclist by Rachel Ann Cullen, but not available until August thanks to the restrictive enough publishers. Though some people check them back sooner

    You can join them all, if you really want.

    There are are some cycling magazines on the RedDigital app too though you might have to ensure you've got set up with an LGMA account as well as your local authority one as some are available to all, some are like ebooks


  • Options
    #158
    ckeego
    Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭ckeego


    Mercian Pro wrote: »
    BorrowBox is the public libraries app for free ebooks and audio books. I could only find one cycling audio book - Wide Eyed and Legless and it wasn't up to much. Plenty of other good audio books though to while away the hours particularly if you don't have a screen near your turbo/rollers/exercise bike.
    I have used RB digital from the library to view magazines (quite a few cycling titles) but can you tell me how borrowbox works as a library card holder please?


  • Options
    #159
    Mercian Pro
    Registered Users Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Mercian Pro


    ckeego wrote: »
    I have used RB digital from the library to view magazines (quite a few cycling titles) but can you tell me how borrowbox works as a library card holder please?

    I think I joined up through a link in an email from Dublin City Libraries but the BorrowBox Library app is available on Play Store and App Store. You have to sign in with your library ID and password.


  • Options
    #160
    jos28
    Registered Users Posts: 7,194 ✭✭✭jos28


    I bought this for my brother's birthday, he's an old hard-core cyclist

    https://www.isolapress.com/shop/rsf-archives-2


  • Options
    #161
    dinneenp
    Registered Users Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Mercian Pro wrote: »
    I think I joined up through a link in an email from Dublin City Libraries but the BorrowBox Library app is available on Play Store and App Store. You have to sign in with your library ID and password.

    your password is last 4 numbers of your ID/library number.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #162
    dinneenp
    Registered Users Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Anyone read Faster - The Obsession, Science and Luck Behind the World's Fastest Cyclists

    Gets excellent reviews all round. Added it to my ever expanding list of books to read (while my length of time on this mortal coil is decreasing....). Maybe in heaven I'll get a comfortable couch, perfect hot chocolate and the mountain of books that I wanted to read.


  • Options
    #163
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    dinneenp wrote: »
    Anyone read Faster - The Obsession, Science and Luck Behind the World's Fastest Cyclists

    Gets excellent reviews all round. Added it to my ever expanding list of books to read (while my length of time on this mortal coil is decreasing....). Maybe in heaven I'll get a comfortable couch, perfect hot chocolate and the mountain of books that I wanted to read.

    If you ever visit Iceland, there's a cafe in Reykavic that I swear does the best I've ever had. Probably cost a fortune but still


  • Options
    #164
    Raymzor
    Registered Users Posts: 350 ✭✭Raymzor


    Weepsie wrote: »
    It was good, and pretty detailed about his actual cycling career as a lot of these books are. A while since I read it, so don't think it dug too far into his non cycling life, but it didn't have much to go on.

    His life in France post cycling kind of unravelled a bit, and don't think he ever quite recovered.



    Favourite cycling bios that I've read are the Anquiteil book, the Fausto Coppi and Gino Bartali ones and We were young and care free (Fignon's autobiography)

    Loved Lantern Rouge too.


    Bought the Shay Elliot Book-enjoyed reading about this Under Celebrated Pioneer of Irish cycling-tremendous cycling achievements abroad.


  • Options
    #165
    Ryath
    Registered Users Posts: 3,436 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Bumping this as they're being discussed in the Tour thread and I need to get back into the habbit of reading again!

    Just ordered two on offer for the kindle.

    Draft Animals Phil Gaimon £3.67

    The Death of Marco Pantini Matt Rendell £3.68


  • Options
    #166
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,052 ✭✭✭✭neris


    The cycling podcast have a KM0 from the TDF on the Rider and interview the chap who wrote it
    Daroxtar wrote: »
    The Rider is a great book, read it all in one go. I loved his stream of consciousness, his randomness, all the thoughts going through his head pretty much in real time during the race.


  • Options
    #167
    dinneenp
    Registered Users Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    dinneenp wrote: »
    Anyone read Faster - The Obsession, Science and Luck Behind the World's Fastest Cyclists

    Gets excellent reviews all round. Added it to my ever expanding list of books to read (while my length of time on this mortal coil is decreasing....). Maybe in heaven I'll get a comfortable couch, perfect hot chocolate and the mountain of books that I wanted to read.

    Read this since I posted last. Enjoyed it, he looks at all angles- bike, person, gentics, food etc.


  • Options
    #168
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,397 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/cycling/2022/06/18/jan-ullrich-a-sad-and-lonesome-tale-of-cyclings-best-there-never-was/

    ..



  • Options
    #169
    dastardly00
    Registered Users Posts: 13,374 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119223634#Comment_119223634

    My copy of the book arrived in the post this morning. I'm really looking forward to reading it. Daniel Friebe did an episode on The Cycling Podcast about the book and it sounds like he put his heart, soul and a lot more into writing it.

    IMG_20220620_115045.jpg




  • Options
    #170
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Kindle edition €14 - yikes!



  • Options
    #171
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119227761#Comment_119227761

    There's vat on ebooks thats not on printed books



  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #172
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Another one that sounds interesting is Le Fric by Alex Duff

    https://road.cc/content/review/le-fric-alex-duff-293505




  • Options
    #173
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    If you have a library card from the following:


    Roscommon, Westmeath, Mayo, South Dublin, Wexford, Meath, Sligo, Wicklow, Carlow, Cavan, Clare, Cork City and Cork County...



    It should be available on borrowbox, or is due to be. There are hardcopies on order. How many, I don't know.



  • Options
    #174
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119227776#Comment_119227776

    The printed book is a fiver more!

    Costs of producing the e-book version are fractional, yet €14 I thought was a real deterrent. Shame!



  • Options
    #175
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119227870#Comment_119227870

    That's a fair price to pay imo for reading years and years of someones work. . Approx 2.50 of it is vat too


    The paperback of this is sold out in some places already too so there's a demand. I've seen it for 19 and 21 from Dubray and Chapters. Cost of producing a printed book has gone up over the last 2 years too and there's a shortage of copies of some titles and/or more niche runs like this have bigger costs too. There's also big delays in getting books ready for publishing onto shelves as a result.



  • Options
    #176
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Appreciate the challenges of the printed world with very tangible and escalating costs, but have noticed a disappointing trend in jacking up the price of Kindle versions of books to match, when they don't have the same cost base at all.



  • Options
    #177
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,397 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    they don't have the same cost base at all.

    how much of the cover price of the book is printing and distribution costs?



  • Options
    #178
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I have no doubt the text itself has an intrinsic value, and a similar associated cost to acquisition, editing, and promotion as the printed volume, so I fired off a query to someone I know in Harper Collins for more precision. The ecommerce distribution channel is certainly considerably cheaper and as the outlay reduces over time I'm sure the prices will fall in line. Clearly distribution is a much bigger slice of the cost pie this year!



  • Options
    #179
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    I don't have a problem with the pricing of the ebook. I do have a problem with how many concurrent readers publishers allow ebooks to have on platforms like borrowbox.

    I understand why they do it.


    Academic publishers are far far worse and were the bane of my working life for some time. They charge multiples more for one copy of an etext with very limited concurrent use and it's merely a sub for a year than you can buy a hardcopy for. Elsevir and Pearson if memory serves me right were forever gouging.



    Anyway. The Ulrich Book is also on Dublin City's borrowbox though there's a waiting list for it. There are likely to be hardcopies soon too, but they're not showing on the new system



  • Options
    #180
    JMcL
    Registered Users Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭JMcL


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119227870#Comment_119227870

    So long as the author is getting a proportionate slice of the pie, this is fine. Just like the printed books, Kindle prices tend to come down over time, and will usually wind up around the £4.99 mark after a year or two. The difference is long term there're no issues with print runs on e-books so €4.99 is a perfectly fine price to pay ongoing - so long as the author is getting their fair share (doubtful this being Amazon).



  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #181
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,052 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Half way through the Ullrich book and a good read so far. Have the book on ASO waiting to go after



Advertisement