Obi Wan Kenobi - Disney+ (may contain spoilers)

@TheIrishGrover Clip from final episode.

They seem to have wrapped up the show with that episode? Will we see a second season or a 'Reva' spinoff.

I think it is easier, quicker and cheaper to do CGI for dark scenes compared with bright scenes.

I can't help but feel like people are extra harsh on this, partially because it's Star Wars and there's this built in expectation around it.

Now, I love Star Wars, even though the originals are pretty average, the prequels were largely disastrous and the sequels were just a mish mash of ideas connected vaguely, with some insanely wasted talented actors thrown in too.

Obi Wan was okay, it was good. I think everyone watching it was really only watching it to see the Obi Wan vs Vader showdown, and no matter the side plot, we really wouldn't have cared so much.

The directors and writers made a lot of silly mistakes here. Just simple, dumb things (such as Obi Wan destroying the gate console instead of walking around it).

But, I enjoyed that last episode. The duel between Vader and Obi Wan was amazing. The voice mixing between Anakin and Vader, Vader straight up saying he killed Anakin.

Haven't look at much reviews of it yet. This pop up on my google feed.

But is the below site, just a paid shill for the show?

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2022/06/review-obi-wan-kenobi-part-vi-delivers-the-best-of-ewan-mcgregors-obi-wan-in-satisfying-continuity-preserving-conclusion.html

^^ How James Earl Jones Became the Voice of Darth Vader ^^

What was the point of having Hayden Christensen in the Darth Vader costume, they could have saved that money and used it on better writing.

The fight was fine (I'm not even going to bother picking holes, Obi already done that and got out) but why did they break away mid fight to show us Reva, that was terrible editing.

I think Disney/Marvel/Star Wars has broken me, perhaps I'm no longer the intended audience but either way Mando is likely the only one I'll watch when it returns going forward.

Whatever about how the Star Wars folks do their motivations in their stories.. and maybe past shows/films influenced me that way but.. the message the show gave to me was

Maul's complete story was pretty much told in the animated series so don't think we'll get the live action version, since the animated shows are considered canon.

We've got plenty of stuff from between the film Episodes 2 and 3 such as Clone Wars and then between 3 and 4 like this and Rebels. I know the comics cover multiple periods. For some reason I was thinking while watching the finale, that I'm surprised Disney haven't announced a young Anakin series to show Anakin training between 1 and 2.

Oh dear............don't know what to be most concerned with, the idea of a Reva spin-off or the splash screen on the Disney app saying season finale as opposed to series finale (though at least the ep description says special event finale, which is hopefully all this ill-conceived and horribly executed fiasco will be)

Very, very poor show overall, which is only made all the more galling given the material and resources to hand. The likes of Boba Fett was bound to be muck given the almost superficial caricutue at hand, and add in the now standard Disney Star Wars 'special mixture' and it was no surprise it was muck. The Mandalorian's hot and cold nature over two seasons elevates it probably more than its due TBH, but also partly due to the bad taste of the recent movies in the memory. That said, what looks like panic stations kicked in and while trying to rescue the Boba Fett dud, they at the very least made much of Season 2 redundant, if not back to square one with Season 3.

Getting back this episode specifically, it was probably the most enjoyable watch of all the six.........well, the duel was really, as the Luke/Reva stuff was beyond nonsensical crap that makes no sense in either the larger lore, or even in the junkyard plot and characterization of this show. Absolutely ridiculous. She's very much been a character they, the writing team, have formed in their head for a final scene, but little understanding of how they get there or making its feel believable or worth investing in. Interaction between Obi-Wan and Vader was at least engaging, and while there's an 'overpowered' problem, it's probably best to let it slide, besides, there was at least some points won in the actual dialogue between the two, especially in Vader's responses to Obi-Wan (split helmet was a little predictable and on the nose, but par for the course with such a production, and of course, the lightsaber prop implementation continues to ruin the scene lighting at every opportunity - but red=dark side, blue=light side.......yeah, we get it). The whole Grand Inquisitor ruse/return plotline was an absolute inspired piece of writing BTW 😐️

No point picking up on the usual poor plot developments and contrivences that leads to events any more, and best to just take scenes in isolation, and at least the fight was there, so that at least elevates it for a few scenes. Cameo in the final moments was beyond laughable. Felt like it was from a new Holiday Special and got mixed up in the editing suite with this junk. 'How about we have it at a meaningful moment at a pivotal phase in the character's story, something to make the character's creed and journey worth the pain and sacrifice ? That'll really generate a heartfelt moment with the audience with beloved characters reunited' says one writer.................'Nah !!', says the rest, 'we've been working on a scene for one of the Lego Star Wars games, so let's shove it in here'. An absolute joke.

At least it's over now, hopefully 😧, so if you got some enjoyment from it, fair enough I suppose. Others will take entertainment from select scenes, but generally forget all about this and most certainly never be watching again. Probably fit mainly in the latter myself, but also with the understanding that this was certainly another harmful effort from Disney to the Star Wars name above all else.

It was okay but I wish they'd have leaned into the culture around the prequels a bit more. So much potential in it but just felt a bit flat. The emotional charge should have been extreme for any meeting between Obi Wan and Anakin but they blew the load on that very early.

The final scene with them while well acted is a bit nonsensical in that Obi Wan would never have allowed him to leave there with the knowledge that he was completely corrupted.

A lot to work with and it felt lazy, which is a bit inexcusable. I did enjoy it at times though and thought it started quite well. Maybe 10 episodes would have helped.

Thank you ! I thought my eyes were gone !

I thought it was disappointing. The Qui-Gon cameo was the moment I was looking forward to the most; they had teased it so many times it had to be coming. It was a pretty throwaway moment in the end. Why not have him show up when Kenobi was under the rubble instead? Make it mean something.

The fight with Vader was the best part but I can't believe they passed up the opportunity to have Vader say he had the high ground. Reva's redemption arc is of no interest to me. It would have been better to kill her off.

If they bring it back for a second series I hope they get away from the Luke and Leia stuff. Let him go off and have adventures, and maybe even a love life, elsewhere.

Most have watched and it's really disappointed expectations. I reduced my own and didn't mind the last few but objectively there was a lot of bad stuff in the season. It's probably not something most people will rewatch.

Exactly. It retcons the relationships. It should be Luke consoling Leia as her Jedi protector who saved her life multiple times was killed. I don't buy the 'formal language' (General Kenobi, years ago you helped my father in the Clone Wars...) as a way of 'masking' her connection to Kenobi. The events in the Kenobi series officially confirm the Organas' connection to a former Jedi. Also, she is openly telling Kenobi that the droid contains plans to the Death Star so why bother pretending any more? You have already committed treason, what difference will it make if the Empire now knows (which they already do) that you have a connection to Kenobi.

Each episode contained a solid moment, but other than that, it's a deflating series. It could have been so much more with better writers and oversight of the scripts. When you start writing scenes to nod at memes, it gives you a sense of exactly how the writers treat the material and view the IP.

Each to their own

I really enjoyed it myself.

Because it could, and really should be so much better.

Are we holding out much hope for Andor to be a decent show?

I'm not setting mine too high.

She passed her out by parkouring along the roof of the tunnel. Possibly...