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The very fact that Ukrainian forces are able to conduct fighting withdrawals in what seems to be good order under the level of artillery fire we're seeing in some places is remarkable. That's a tough maneuver to pull off at the best of times, and the situation in Donbas is hardly the wargames room in a military academy. Granted, we tend to only see the "good" news make it out into social media but between their ongoing high morale, working logistics, their "Artillery as a Service" approach with GIS-Arta and other news, the Ukrainians are turning out to be much more of an effective fighting force than I think even they themselves thought possible. If Ukraine had equal artillery and air assets available, Russia would be in deep, deep trouble.

Another interesting story and if we get out of 2nd gear we might be able to do something about all that dodgy business.

Unfortunately, that is now the problem. Now that Russia has been able to bring in military hardware in big amounts they can defend their positions better. It is looking like Ukraine will need to go with the original plan and use jets. That or put those simi-long-range rocket systems to very good use. I am thinking they will push for the jets as they can do more work. what jets can they get? is the question. I must wonder if China is helping Russia with providing tech support in an increasing manner. Russia is getting help from somewhere!

At this stage all Russian diplomats should be expelled and we should recall our own embassy. Russia is a gangster fascist dictatorship, it's not like our diplomats could do anything over there to assist Irish citizens in such a state. Anybody who stays is on their own, as they already were.

Be a few years off before there both full members but a huge 1st step in the process towards it.

And give them arms ..

No outright victory anyway, but its completely Putins fault 100%. Now he can't win, and and can't be seen to lose, so dead end. But he can and is causing havoc world wide, especially in the west.

Any links to where your money goes towards weapons for Ukraine?

But it's quite clear that they haven't "liberated" the Donbass, so I'm not sure how they could claim that as a victory.

It would be like us invading NI with the aim of a forced united Ireland, taking possession of maybe two and a half NI counties and then abruptly declaring victory and "mission accomplished".

Hindsight being the great thing that it is, if I knew then what I know now, it would be different. But we are where we are. Since Georgia, where it began ( illegally taking over part of an independent Country ) the warnings were getting louder and louder year on year, yet no one thought it would come to outright war. Then you have the global village, where every thing is interlinked, and BINGO, shake one strand of the web, and it reverberates literally world wide. But if there's one positive outcome from all of this....Putin has shown the world what can happen when someone like him gains unlimited power. But its a one -trick pony. The world will not allow itself to be taken in like it has been, especially the west. The old adage " If you want peace, then prepare for war" and that will be the mantra in future for the west. And that will include becoming blackmail proof in terms of food and energy.

An amazing sight from this side of the launch....where they landed is a different story.

A cargo plane crashed close to Moscow.It's probably not war related and may be a malfuntion related to maintenance,which may be war related!

"The plane flew from Orenburg to Belgorod, on the way landed at the gas station in Ryazan. Immediately after takeoff he fell to the ground.The Ministry of Defense of the Muscovite attack: "One engine refused to take off due to a malfunction. The plane made a hard landing with partial destruction." Four have already died, the other five are in critical condition"

On what basis are you asking this question and at this time?

There is a plan in place and I would think training has been going on secretly before this bill was introduced.