What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Won't happen, but if it did they might take a few other red states with them. Would lessen a lot of the polarization of US politics.

On the second point, the hearings are delayed now citing 'new evidence', could be because of the footage of that documentary

you forgot Person. Might want to get yourself tested :)

It would be incredibly interesting to see what would happen with ither states if Texas did manage to leave.

First off, it would vastly skew future presidential elections as a huge chunk of Republiacan electoral college votes would be gone, likely leading to the Dems easily winning the next few presidential elections until the political climate changes.

Would California look to do something similar? It has a substantial economy of its own and would be able to break free from its federal obligations of paying for a lot of red states.

The above is something I've seen mentioned here quite a few tines. That a lot of the net contributor states are traditional blue ones while some that get the most federal funding are traditional red ones (the likes of Kentucky and West Virgina, iirc). Would paying blue states rather strike out on their own and remove a lot of federal taxes DC spreads across al fifty? Would recipient red states be able to hold their nose with one hand at the stink of guaranteed 'lib' governments while holding out the other for federal subsidies?

So, if Texas secedes, can the USG build a wall around the border and inter anyone crossing illegally, put them in cages and separate their families? I'm sure there's a huge market for Anglo babies in the US, too, so lots of adoption potential (just ask the RCC how well that worked for them in Ireland!)

Build that Wall! Build that Wall!

Texas isn't going to secede.

But it would be an engrossing experiment to say the least from a schadenfreude POV. It would make Brexit look like the greatest idea of all time. The place would become a pariah in no time, in it's own continent and around the world.

“Breaking:

Mo Brooks asked for a pardon.

Matt Gaetz asked for a pardon.

Andy Biggs asked for a pardon.

Louie Gohmert asked for a pardon.

Scott Perry asked for a pardon.”

Totally normal.

Republicans learning it's hard to wash off the Q once you slap it on

He's on the record, on the phone, talking to the Georgia Secretary of State, saying he wanted the SoS to find him several thousand extra votes. Based on nothing, by the way. Based on no evidence. That was the then-sitting POTUS asking for an illegal reversal of the result of the presidential election in Georgia.

And then we have Trump going to the Capitol on the day that the election was to be certified and repeated his claim. Based on nothing. No evidence. No successful court cases. Not a leg to stand on. He went down there and told lies. He's a liar. Not even an artful liar. The lying skills of a 4 year old. He knew the mob didn't need any convincing, though. They'd believe anything he said. That was the then-sitting POTUS literally riling up a mob of angry supporters live on TV.

Does anyone here think Trump would have said boo if the mob had actually managed to breach the interior of the Capitol and actually managed to somehow overturn the election. Does anyone think he'd have come out and gone, "This isn't democracy... This isn't what I wanted... Stop now." The testimony coming out of the hearings makes it ever clearer that he was waiting to see what happened, and he only came out to say something at the point he knew the mob had failed. He made one short speech to save his hide, vacated the office in disgrace, and then was back after a short holiday to say that, actually, maybe the mob wasn't so bad.

It would be surprising if this kind of thing even happened back in the days when a U.S. president might challenge someone to a dual with pistols for besmirching his honour on a Sunday, never mind the modern day. People talking like it doesn't matter would want to get a grip. To be honest, we know where their agenda lays, out in lala-land where they think Joe Biden, who in any other country would be seen as centre-right, is some sort of cheerleader for the (woman shrieking) radical left. Absolute insanity.

I found today's hearing very engaging. The blow by blow account of the various meetings where Trump tried to replace AG Jeffrey Rosen with Jeff Clarke were fascinating, mostly due to testimony by Rosen and his assistants where they describe in no uncertain terms how utterly unqualified and unsuitable Clarke was for the role of AG.

There was a last minute meeting in the oval with Trump, Rosen, Clarke, and various other people who were all on Rosen's side. For about two hours, they tried to explain to Trump why Clarke would be a disastrous AG. They were using various legal, constitutional and procedural arguments together with Clarke's inexperience but Trump was having none of it. Referring to the likely mass resignations in the DoJ that would follow Clarke's appointment, one of the assistant AGs said that Clarke would be left managing a graveyard. They said that is when Trump changed his mind.

To me, that illustrates how Trump's brain works. He can't really assimilate any complex arguments but when it is boiled down to a simple image of a graveyard, he finally gets it.

I heard some commentator say after that if there were mass resignations from the DoJ, Trump likely would have lost the support of too many GOP Senators/Congressmen who might otherwise have been swayed to support him, and that's likely why he pulled back, thinking pressuring Pence and proceeding with the alternate electors would be the next best option.

The problem is even if convicted and not able to run, he will go next best option and roll out one of the sprogs and rule through them or a Rudy type joke but who many will still vote for if they pucker up kiss Trumps ring. It might be better to see the organ grinder then a succession of monkeys.

Trumps biggest gripe imo is that he has the misfortune to only be able to gain power in a democratic country with so far checks and balances holding.

What he really wants and envies is people and situations like Russia and ruling by decree like Putin. I really think he thought he could rule by decree, look at the blizzard of Presidential orders he made early on, then he came up against the system of checks and balances which as I say, held for 4 years but I really doubt will survive another 4 years.

I read that as "Marge seems a bit defective".

It checks out!

Thankfully these guys are so utterly stupid...

I mean, Navarro just went on TV and dug himself an even deeper hole. The mind boggles...