Obi Wan Kenobi - Disney+ (may contain spoilers)

Just finished watching Ms Marvel, the other big release on Disney +. The difference in production quality between that and Kenobi is staggering.

The former uses its budget so well. It uses CGI illustrations on screen to make it seem like a teenaged girls diary come to life. There's song and dance numbers and competently put together action scenes. It's so superior to Obi Wan Kenobi. The latter supposedly had a budget of $25m per episode. I really want to know where that went. Editing and direction was bad, there were so many action scenes entirely devoid of any urgency and clearly **** in sound stages. It just seemed so cheap.

Ms Marvel seems like a passion project where everyone was desperate to see it succeed. OWK, in comparison, skirts by on the minimum and seems like it was just a cynical cash grab effort.

Just to confirm on this, due to Vader being in the suit he's not as powerful as could potentially be. The suit is absolute agony by all accounts and forces him to change up his fighting style. Plus, Vader hates Obi Wan, he goes in to a total obsession and tunnel vision when he faces him

I think, somehow, that people forgot about the flashback sequence from the previous episode, and Obi Wans tactics when fighting a more aggressive opponent. Anakin/Vader is focused entirely on the kill, relying largely on his anger and use of the force to end a fight quickly. Obi Wan knows his fighting styles, he's beaten him numerous times and 'finished' him in Ep 3.

Vader expects people to make death blow moves, so Obi Wan changed it up and takes out his life support and keeps him off balance. From a purely canonical point of view, the fight makes absolute sense.

Obi Wan learned his lesson when he lets his emotions take over during his fight with Maul, it nearly ends with him falling to his death. Vader never learned to control his emotions, so keeps making the same mistakes and that's his weakness.

I really find people saying that people shouldn't complain as it's "entertainment" or "for children" to be quite insulting as it means that it's ok for shows to be poorly written or acted.

Entertainment or children's films or TV shows can still be well written, acted and executed.

People saying the duel made it worth it. How? It's nothing we've not seen before and there was zero tension as we knew both would survive.

This series was a great opportunity to explore how Ben coped after ROTS but we learn nothing. They could also have explored Vader's transformation more after losing most of his body and also his wife and children. Following an emotional path like that leading to an ultimate meeting would have been a better use of strong characters instead of introducing useless fodder like Reeva who I still don't know what the point of her was.

I don't think anyone here is saying to not criticize or complain about it, rather I just point out it's a bit much when people are saying things like "this is the worst show ever." "worst acting ever" and so on.

There is a crap tonne of flaws in the show, including a very inconsistent run time. A lot more could have been done with Obi Wan himself on a per episode basis.

if they do get a season 2 they could explore more of Bens feelings. I dont want Vader to become a new Kylo Ren so don't want to see him agonising over his choices. He shouldn't be at all like that until Return of the Jedi. As for the duel I think it was more emotional then most of the duels shown in the movies and on a par with the important duels shown in Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi.

I wouldn't excuse the bad writing but not all enjoyable series have to be perfection- it reminded me of the mess that was Rogue One, but like that movie I did feel emotionally connected to the characters and loved the ending.

While that's all fine, what didn't make a lick of sense is Kenobi deciding just to walk away after and leave Vader alive. That was just insulting to the viewer, frankly. Unfortunately it's wholly indicative of the problems with these prequel bits and pieces. Major characters HAVE to be alive at the end, no matter how bloody stupid the scenario looks.

But surely the writers could have come up with a better and more logical ending to that duel.

Well, they tried and they fucked it up royally.

Really though, new characters in the same galaxy. Why is that so bloody difficult?

Realistically most Star Wars fans, and I mean anyone that grew up with the original trilogy in the 70's and 80's, are in or around their 40's. "iTs fOr kIdS" should have been booted out on its arse a long time ago.

If they're going to keep on insulting the intelligence of their mature adult fanbase then I'd just rather Disney left all of the remaining original and prequel trilogy characters alone, so we can stop seeing them being used as a cash cow and being butchered and soiled by piss-poor writing. It's time for them to move on and start creating entirely original material outside of the already explored timelines from the movies, TV and games.

No I actually agree with you. My thoughts above were just a potential reason based on my thinking and the cannon. They could have easily had someone, or something, happen that ended the fight.

Obi-Wan Kenobi: Season 1 RECAP