HSE charge for admission

Absolutely do not offer any private nsurance details until the hospital offers you something that you are not going to get otherwise.

However, the government have announced some reduction in hospital charges from next year. THis may not include the the A&E though, as having GP fees and a free A&E might lead to irresponsible behaviour by some.

Happy your son is ok and I’m sure he was well looked after, worth the 100euro in my opinion

Presumably he was taken to A&E on the basis that qualified paramedics made the clinical decision he required the assessment and attention of a Doctor in ED? That should be enough to waive the €100 fee, IMO.

...so what if people cant even afford that, baring in mind our current deteriorating situation?

There's a community welfare officer for people like that.

so theres definitely welfare supports for all in these types of situations, including people on reasonably good wages?

@[Deleted User] I hope your son is ok.... In relation to the A&E fee it drives me mental, but scrapping those charges will make no difference because A&E is clogged up by people who aren't paying that fee anyway.

If I can, I just head to the local private hospital, my kids have had xrays and cast and after insurance it cost me €180 and we where in and out in less than 2 hours.... my other option is save €80 in public A&E but give up 8/10 hours of my life!!

Who's problem should it be?

The community welfare officer is there as a last resort.

Their payments are strictly means tested, and rightly so.

They will have been treated.

The HSE will look for their money.

You can't get blood from a stone.

Are you suggesting there should be no a&e charges, for anyone?

You need to stop arguing strawman here. People who cannot afford any payment plan will qualify for a medical card. Everyone else absolutely can pay €100 over the course of a year

€100 per A&E visit is actually quite decent value

If you want to argue for a full NHS style health system, I’m all for it but the argument won’t be based on made up people that simply don’t exist

Just to confirm if your son was admitted to the hospital the €100 A&E charge is not collected. Even if a private patient attends without a GP letter and they require admission the €100 is not charged. Obviously if he was discharged reclaim it on your out patient expenses as said previously

Hope he feels better soon.

Your net cost is €144 as you can claim 20% tax relief on the cost.

So many people throw away this very simple tax relief. All you need is a box for any and every medical related expense from prescriptions under the new lower €80/month cost to GP visits, consultants, xrays etc etc

Every January add them all up, put the details in Revenue's online system and you have 20% back within a couple of weeks

And it can add up over the year too!

https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/health-and-age/health-expenses/what-are-qualifying-expenses.aspx

I've never paid my A&E charges...4 times in total...debt collector letters ignored...

If I need to go to A&E because I was bottled, fell(sober), had chest pains(X2)... Shouldn't the services be there for me...

At the time I work a low paid job, not entitled to a medical card yet paid taxes...

Feck em, my taxes should be good for emergency health at the very least

It's dysfunctional. We're actively trying to stop people seeking medical attention. Make primary care free/very low cost, you then don't need to apply high charges on A&E.

Bear in mind that rocking up to a private A+E is not possible much anymore. You need to phone for an appointment and are triaged, or told to go to your GP. So therefore critical emergencies are straight to public hospital A+E. Matter of fact some private hospitals have to transfer suddenly ill patients to public A+E if they have a stroke or cardiac issue, that is where the private hospital is not a general hospital and is mainly elective.

I got very ill early 2021 during the height of Covid. We were told by Holohan and co. not to go near the A+E in the main hospitals. Struggled to GP, he agreed that public a+e was a dangerous place infection and crowding wise. He rang around the private A+Es and only one out of four near me would take me in based on symptoms. It was a bit chaotic there too, but I was seen very quickly and admitted within 2 hours. I don't know how long it would have taken in the main A+E but I have no doubt I would have been triaged and looked after just as well.

All I know of the public charge is that if you don't have a medical card or a GP referral you will be charged unless admitted.