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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    From the article is was described as a sort of showroom/testing room/car park


    So it seems the car was free to move around (as evidenced by it exiting via the window)

    You'd think with a bunch of engineers in the building someone would have said that was a bad idea

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Is it any worse than the existence of multi-storey car parks? People sometimes crash out the upper floors of those too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    Chief Engineer Sum Tin Wong and assistant Wang Ban Ow died in the accident according to witness Ho Lee Fuc



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Comer1




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Well yeah... A typical multi storey car park has steel reinforced concrete walls. Would withstand most cars doing less than 50km/h.

    This looked like a glass wall with a token bit of plasterboard above and below.


    Also, if the car landed on it's roof, that would suggest that there was some braking applied just before falling in order to tip the car over.


    But given that it's China, safe to say we'll never know the ultimate truth behind this.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Apparently the original statement from Nio said there was nothing wrong with the car and it was just an accident. The response from the general public wasn't very supportive of this viewpoint, people saying it was the worst form of capitalism

    Oddly enough, I'd say they're both right, it wasn't the car's fault because no car is designed to be driven around an office building. It's the fault of whatever idiot manager put a showroom up there and didn't perform a proper safety audit

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,729 ✭✭✭zg3409


    A lot of EVs now you don't even need to press the start button, just enter the car and car is already "on" but silent. Many EVs also simulate automatic creep, meaning after you let go accelerator the car will continue to move forward slowly.

    Post edited by zg3409 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,516 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Probably a wedding. Or stopping lunch service to start dinner later



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah I wish they could be set to make noise when put in gear, not just when moving


    It would make like easier in car parks as well, might result in fewer people stepping behind the car just when I start reversing out of a space

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    One of the reasons you should always reverse into a parking spot.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Unfortunately they walk behind the car when I'm reversing into the spot then 😬

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    McMurtry Spéirling smashing Goodwood Hill record. It beat the VW ID R, which people thought was going to be as good as it gets this year.





  • Registered Users Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Watched it. Incredible speed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭cannco253


    nothing new really, but ……

    Reuters reported last week that Toyota Motor Corp's (7203.T) head lobbied the Japanese government to make clear it supported hybrid vehicles as much as zero-emission battery electrics.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Fitz II



    BMW I3 is discontinued to make way for the new ix1. Shame really i3 is still a great city car, a totally origional and inovative design and platform. Still holds up today.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    A right looker, some v happy owners here, even of the hybrid model

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I seen a piece on it the other day. The 250,000th car had just rolled off the production line.

    A great city car, could handle the long runs but was a bit twitchy at motorway speeds.

    BMW’s fastest accelerating car to 30 mph for a while 👀

    Handled like a go kart!





  • Registered Users Posts: 33,600 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    A great car supposedly, and one I would probably have owned, had it not been for it being a 4 seater.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    My one, great little car, maybe a bit too hard on the suspension but super round town.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I feel like the i3 was a bit too innovative for its time. If they'd made it a 5 seater, put normal doors on the rear and gone with a slightly less odd looking front it would have been much better

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  • Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭handpref


    People went out of their way to hate on the i3- the whole hybrid - Rex thing didn’t help, anyone who has driven one can appreciate it for what it is. It was maybe indeed too innovative for its time.

    161- Rex only cost has been 2 x €140 services for oil change + tyres. Car came with service pack for first 3 years. It does 100km per day on the battery.

    Now at 163,000km’s, battery just out of its warranty at 160k with no loss of range. Still pulls like a train.




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Great looking car, the quirkiness is what makes it

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    My mother wants to upgrade her car (2012 Yaris), and I desperately want to get her into an EV, and wold fcuking love to get her into an i3...


    Obviously though changing cars right now is a bit of a non starter.....



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    See that from today in the UK all charge points for the home (plus work) need to be smart and likely pre-configured for off peak use. This is a sales perspective not installation so may be some "dumb" charge point bargains to be had...

    Drivers warned as all new electric car chargepoints must have ‘smart functions' from today (msn.com)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Bit of a black eye for Glastonbury and other festivals which are supposedly climate friendly

    £50 to slow charge your car for 1 hour from a diesel generator 😱

    I'll never complain about Ionity prices again...

    This does seem a fairly wide ranging problem, diesel generators seem pretty ubiquitous wherever there's no grid available


    I remember walking through phoenix park last year and the council had put in extra lighting around the paths, each light pole with a dirty diesel generator spewing smoke out everywhere

    My guess is that the main driver is cost and wide availability of diesel generators versus a battery bank, plus to some extent plant hire companies not being bothered to change


    For the example of EV charging at a festival, that charging truck that Porsche were showing off a few years ago would have been perfect.

    For smaller applications, there really need to be some push to have batteries instead of generators. I've even seen a few power trailers which integrate batteries, a small generator and solar panels so you get the best of everything

    Having batteries attached is good for the generator too, since it means it can be run at it's most efficient setpoint to charge the battery, instead of often underloading it which causes problems down the line

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,090 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Wouldn't the rest of the festival be run on generators too?

    The AA said they were for emergency/recovery only.. and priced so expensive as to discourage use? Eg arrive with enough to get you back to a charge point.. like you would with a ice car



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    But what if the car has the smart charging function, having both active can be a headache unless they are properly synchronised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,178 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Thinking about the names of certain EVs and how they're numbered

    Tesla Model 3

    Hyundai Ionic 5

    Kia EV6

    All are large cars, makes me wonder, will they all be introducing smaller cars in the future with lower numbers

    eg. Kia EV1, Hyundai Ionic 1, Tesla model 1, Toyota BZ1X etc

    Not an opinion, or a promise... Just my random EV though



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah, but there's a lot of low hanging fruit at a festival that you could move away from generators

    Lighting is an easy one, instead of having a 3kW generator attached to a 400W lighting pole, you could have a couple of battery which can be swapped out and charged elsewhere

    If you think of the smaller tents that use power they tend to fall into 3 types, selling drinks, selling food or selling junk. So for power requirements you're looking at fridges, tills, lights and potentially some cooking (don't think wood fired pizza is going electric anytime soon). Power requirements aren't huge, so a box trailer with batteries and a small ground mounted solar PV array, with a small generator for backup would probably power a bunch of those tents for the whole festival

    Or if any of those businesses in the tents were particularly forward thinking they might have an EV with V2L capability onboard 😀

    The biggest consumers of power are probably the music stages, lots of high powered lights, screens and speakers. From what I could find you're looking at power draws from hundereds to thousands of kVa, often from multiple generators running in parallel at partial load so they can pick up full load if one fails

    So definitely a harder one to unstick from diesel, but there's some possibilites. That Porsche trailer for example has 2.1MWh of storage onboard and can supply something like 2MW of power. A couple of trailers like that could run alongside the generators, so you could run 1 generator at it's most efficient load and use the batteries for load management or backup power if the generator fails, giving you time to bring a second generator online

    As for EV charging, I think a festival like Glastonbury is a perfect event to showcase EVs and frankly car companies should have been all over the organisers to provide a charging trailer or something

    Of course it's a bit questionable talking about CO2 emissions of a festival when the biggest damage to the environment is caused by the thousands of people being in one place.

    There needs to be a bit of realism there that festivals will happen anyway, so it's best to try and look at ways of mitigating the damage, like requiring all food and drink containers to be compostable, having an army of litter pickers to clean up, good crowd control to ensure people don't wander and wreck areas outside the festival grounds, and maybe even providing good public transport options so people don't need to bring the car in the first place

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The only reason the Model 3 is called the Model 3 is because they couldn't name it the Model E, as they wanted 'E' to complete the line up of Tesla being S3XY cars.... so the 3 is just an E backwards....

    These were actually sold by Tesla;




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