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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    The problem with the Hubs is that the people who don't have (for the most part) space to WFH properly, are those already in cities, not rural areas. They may be successful for people who want to get out of the house but dont want the long commute.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Agreed. Decentralisation was a great idea poorly implemented by FF 20 years ago. Drives my head in that it isn't being embraced now. Transport is not good enough in Dublin, this isn't a long term space but does give them some breathing room. Wfh requires no transport but will encourage the development of more services out in the country when there are more people to serve going to other things.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,892 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Not quite sure where you got the idea that I think that people who WFH are dossing.

    I've said that some managers want monitoring software - but that's a statement about what the managers want, not what I believe. ( Hell, I KNOW that such software will raise more issues than it fixes.)

    My main concerns with WFH are with the shallow relationships with colleagues, and the lack of professional development which comes from watching more experienced people interact with issues and other teams. And that it means poorer people who don't have WFH suitable space will be even more disadvantaged. Ie about systemic effects, not individual ones.

    Not really liking the idea of hunching over the laptop for a day, though ..




  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭gaming_needs90


    On your last point, any space that doesn't have monitors is very poor. I am in engineering and its impossible to use a laptop alone, especially now with the trend of supplying 13-14" laptops. The visual tools used are just too finnicky for the laptop screen. One decently sized monitor per desk would be great, but again raises the cost base of the place..



  • Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Young_gunner


    I would consider the availability of a good monitor to be a basic minimum requirement



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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,892 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    As an exercise, go into connectedhubs.ie and search for your area. Look at the pictures and see exactly what their hot desks look like. You may be surprised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,381 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Fair play to your brother , thats showing great initiative!

    I work from home these days all the time and was thinking I wouldn't mind a trip to one of these hubs for a few days every now and again just for something different.

    During the summer holidays we usually take a few weeks away with AirBnB in different parts of the country. Have often thought it would be handy to book a place near the sea, work for a few of the days somewhere near with internet access and still enjoy the family time "away". I think its a great scheme all round.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You're unlikely to get that on the basis of interoperability alone. Not an insurmountable issue sure, but one that it easily avoided by hubs by not offering monitors in the same way they wouldn't offer keyboards or a mouse.

    A hot desk at a hub will be a desk and chair only. The quality of which would vary across locations



  • Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Young_gunner


    I guess the offering will grow, evolve and improve over time - pre-Covid these weren't really a thing at all.

    As you can guess from my previous posts, I am a huge advocate of remote work so any and all developments in this area are welcome.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    This is a two pronged message from this message:

    Shallow relationships? Who cares! I don't need work friends. I hope you mean getting to know people so work gets done. It's business and indeed shallow.

    On the flip side, if you're newish to work, face to face can have a great outcome. In saying that the people I hire around the block a few times. Meeting them once a month is grand. They have their own life.



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  • Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some companies will go to any lengths to encourage staff to return to the office*


    *most probably fake but funny all the same.

    Might explain why we have so many sticky keyboards at work!😶



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    There's a bit of focus on co-working locations and hubs in the media this weekend.

    I am not sure if just a desk is enough to lure me in.

    At the moment, I have a desk at home with work laptop, monitor, mouse & keyboard.

    I have no objection to bringing laptop to a hub but don't fancy lugging everything else there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,658 ✭✭✭storker


    Who's going to tell her she's holding that phone wrong?



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Sammy96


    Covid causing havoc in our office again. Whole division now have it after the usually weekly divisional meeting was held and some people just back from holidays with a "cough" the likely spreaders.

    Many have wanted to continue to remote work but management insisted on 2 days a week, now lots out sick and some very important deadlines being missed. To say management are stressed is an understatement



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    I've heard a few other similar nightmares in offices in Dublin this week that your place is not the only one. Common theme seems to be managers acting as if covid was over, just a seasonal virus and not going to ever be a problem in the office again

    The mangers who have embraced remote work, flexibility and looking after their staff won't have as much of these business continuity headaches



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Indeed. If you’ve developed a culture of flexibility and hybrid working, then coughs and sniffles will not result in lost days as people switch seamlessly into home work mode. If it’s 100% office return, especially if exacerbated by an element of presenteeism, then not going to the office = no work, even if not actually sick

    another cultural benefit of management flexibility and hybrid models



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    You reap what you sow.

    I'm aware of one public sector body - ironically involved in licensing health practitioners! - bringing people in for all-hands staff meetings. Poorly ventilated room. Meeting used to discuss things such as their increasing backlog. Several days later, more staff go sick with COVID (backlog increases (complaints come in (management panics when complaints come via TD, for whatever reason (people get reassigned to answer complaint letters (backlog increases (management call a meeting...))))))



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid



    This, exactly. I finally succumbed to the 'rona a couple of weeks ago, having avoided it thus far. Thankfully my case was very mild. Took one day off sick, worked the rest of the week from home. Work still got done, nobody else got infected. Ironically, last week in the office, some fuppet arrives in to my room, no mask (we have a protocol they ignored), sniffling... they only beat a retreat when I told them I was just back from having COVID. They were presumably one of the super-immune who just know their cough or sniffle is only a headcold or allergy. Though why they'd want to risk spreading a headcold was always beyond me...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In a blog post, Chief Executive Jeremy Stoppelman said online-review company will close its “most consistently underutilized offices” in New York, Chicago and Washington D.C. effective July 29. “Combined, the three offices we’re closing saw a weekly average utilization of less than 2% of the available workspaces,” he said.

    Stoppelman cited Yelp employee surveys that found 86% of respondents said they prefer to work from home most or all of the time, with 87% saying working from home made them more effective. He said that since Yelp reopened its offices nine months ago, giving employees the option to come in, only about 1% of workers have chosen to come in every day.




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,025 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Hard to know how some of you manage daily life now such is your fear of a catching Covid at work. Do you avoid shops, public busy places as well? Probably don’t socialise or go to restaurants or gyms either , must be grim.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Yes, yes, all of those things, terrible, so it is. Grim is right. Grim.

    Happy now? Off you go, so.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭BKWDR


    Worked only remote for over a year. Challenging. Adapted. Grand.

    Back in office 2021 April for 2-3 days. Grand.

    3 days mandated April 2022. Grand.

    5 days mandated June 2022. Challenging.

    Opening up blended application to change policy for 2 days remote guaranteed moving forward from 4 weeks from now. Perfect.

    I will value the 2 days wfh more now. But have to say, the interaction in the office has been positive



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,025 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    it would be better if people were honest, I don’t want to goto the office because I prefer working from my bedroom, rather than this faux fear of what is now a seasonal flu.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In many cases it’s not faux fear. It’s company instructions. Don’t come in if you’ve any symptoms



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,025 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Yes we do 3 days (specific days ) mandated and two from home , works well, there is unanimous acceptance that the office days are very important.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid



    Faux fear, my left testicle. I'm immunocompromised. I've still been in the office for at least two days every week, except for holidays, since March 2020, across two jobs. I've a colleague, similarly in the office every week, caring for an immunocompromised parent in their 90s. We've no problem going into the office when it's needed, as long as everyone is taking reasonable precautions. Right now, "reasonable precautions" means not coming into my room without a mask (there's a mask mandate in the office anyway), and not coming into the office when you're symptomatic. This is basic common sense.

    In the past, being sick meant staying home, calling in sick, and doing no work. Now it often means phoning in to say you're symptomatic, and working from home. Surely that's better for everyone?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Pat Kenny has a discussion on the subject and who is the "expert" he brings in to talk about it? A lad who leases commercial property. Can't imagine what agenda he has despite all available evidence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Ashley02


    I went to the office yesterday and found it so depressing, there were so little people in the office, I either can't sit near the people that I work closely with (at present we hotdesk and need to book desks) or those people aren't in the office, that you sit there and think what's the point of me coming in and I may as well save the money commuting by staying at home.

    I found myself counting down the time until I could leave to go home. I decided to stay home today. It really gives me zero motivation to want to return to the office.



  • Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    I'm getting leas and less enamored with WFH. Maybe it's the job or the just one of those phases where I'm not overly busy, I don't know.

    I'm becoming more and more detached from the organisation. It's almost complete WFH now, I've only been in the office a couple of times in the last two years. As said above, there is no point going in when there is almost nobody there.

    Increasingly finding it difficult to get things done. Stuff that could have been sorted out quickly with a couple of face-to-face meetings now takes an age with endless zoom calls.

    The positives are still there: reduced commuting costs, saved time, better work-life balance but I'm starting to think that the effect of the organisation's psyche is bad.

    Anyone else finding this?

    I was massively in favour of WFH at the start. I have a great setup at home and lack of a commute is brilliant, financially and time-wise. Maybe I need a change?



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’d feel the same if I were just working from home all the time. Being able to drop in to the office any time I want is definitely important to keep me energised.



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