Mayo GAA Discussion

Hard luck to all in mayo today. I thought kerry were going to be rusty and they were. Probably the worst mayo shooting in croke Park we have seen in a few years. Hard to know what Horan can do next for ye. At least there's a few good underage teams the last few years to try to bring on..

I thought the high ball was absolutely chaotic for Galway. A lot of people blaming the keeper but the fullback line were all over the place any time it came in too. If Armagh had done that earlier, they might have been out the gate but they left it a bit late to start lobbing them in at will.

I think Derry look a fairly well-drilled outfit that are getting the best out of what they have at their disposal. I thought the performance against Clare showed that they have a few more dimensions to them, even if Clare were poor. I think they'll give Galway a rattle.

I'd disagree on the Hession point. Geaney took him to the cleaners in the 1st half.

Disappointing result considering the decent first half we had. The misses when we were on top in the 3rd quarter killed us.

I think Horan will call it a day although personally, I'd give him another year if he wanted it.

I’d be ok with giving Rochford another shout too. Not sure he would though. I think Deane has some positive qualities but I get your point too on subs and kickouts. He’s got those young lads believing in themselves, and playing very well and for that he deserves a load of credit.I’ll reserve judgement on him until after the minor final all the same.

Are there others worthy of consideration?.

I would have to disagree. Yes he made a daft error in injury time, but over all I thought he really delivered for Galway today when they were living on scraps in the period 5-15 mins. He was very good throughout the game. And his penalty was the highest pressure kick of the day and he converted it textbook.

Is there a better option out there than horan atm? Id say no. He makes mistakes, but who doesnt? From a purely pragmatic standpoint,id keep him.

Oshea had a decent game today to be fair to him. We all give him plenty criticism when he has a quiet game so he deserves some praise today.

I think we just ran out of road today. Too many injuries and guys off form. Probably lost a few big 50-50 decisions that we needed to go for us too - black card, keegans advantage-point attempt that wasnt brought back. They were at vital junctures. Kerry deserved the win. Hopefully someone gives galway a right clipping and i dont really mind after that.

Our match felt like a training game.....the Armagh crowd leaving sucked the life out of Croke Park.

The end of the first game was insane...haven't seen anything like that in Croker since our own titanic battles with Dublin and the Limerick-Galway hurling final

Kerry weren't that hectic although the left hand side of their attack destroyed us in the first half (the exact same as the league final iirc)....and as others have said, when we got on top after half time we completely shat the bed in front of goal...Kev McLoughlin's chance would have been buried by a Kerry player, and the balls dropping into the keepers hands was a killer.

I have no strong opinions re: Horan tbh....if there's a strong candidate out there then give them a go by all means but no point giving him the bullet with no plan in place.

There is no direct route put of Connacht anymore

That's complete bollix tbf, Kerry (Paudie C or Geaney I think) missed a much easier goal chance midway through the first half so they're not infallible by any means. D Clifford on the other hand might have finished McLoughlin's chance.

It was the simple mistakes that killed us - overcooked handpass from McLaughlin, missed points from relatively central positions from DOC, Ruane, Cillian, etc.

Maybe I didn't have a proper view of it so (from Lower Cusack near the Hill) but I thought it was a carbon copy of the Clifford goal....maybe a bit harsh on KMc but I thought he should have at least made the keeper work.

It was also very similar to Geaneys chance who put it wide. Clifford's was probably the hardest of the three (he had a little bit more pressure on him, Geaney and Kev Mc were more or less free) and was expertly taken.

Durcan seemed to be marking Clifford for the goal... Was this a switch from the sideline or was Durcan covering a burst from Oisin? Said it before the game but if you're man marking Clifford, that's all you should be doing, he's too dangerous to be leaving free when making runs up the pitch.

he did, his black card was exemplary. when he went off, he wasn't missed on the score-board.

ROD is a natural born with a winner/killer instinct.He has not featured in the past few games and no worthwhile 'news' on his injury by management.There was suppoosedly a 'falling out' with manager when he was relieved of his 'kicking duties' back in the Galway game.He (along with Tommy Goals) are the only naturally instinctive forwards we have presently.

For all his great years of service COC is now a 20 minute off the bench player at best.No running from him yesterday to any balls put into the forwards.Management do not want to change this ,the thick headed ignorance is sometimes good! but in this instance its rotten and has cost us.

D.McHale deserves a go and what of Darren Coen,made for Croke Parke, if his games in the past are anything to go by.He must be terrible in training if he dosent get a few game minutes.

It doesnt bother me what media say to be honest. Media is a bad joke at this stage. Click-bait rubbish and people trying to churn out articles.

If there are valid points to be made then they should be made, what philly mcmahon or whoever thinks of it on their podcast or article etc isnt my concern. If someone wants to say that is an excuse to make a few quid, why should you or I care?

Re horan, i repeat the same question, is there a superior alternative available?

Would largely agree with that - after a great start to the season, DOC has been poor enough in the last few games. For someone with so much potential, he doesn't deliver often enough for whatever reason. Ruane also poor this season after a brilliant year last year (excl. the final)

Ruane didn't look right yesterday at all imho....he ran back around 50 mins after Moran (I think), we turned it over and Durcan or someone went tearing up the pitch....Ruane hobbled up to around the 45, was really huffing and puffing and just stopped and looked like he was going to puke.

Don't want to single him out but was just in front of me in the stand so it really stood out.

There was a few others that looked dead on their feet from half time onwards....we can all speculate about the reasons why but it could just simply be too many hard miles on the clock for some players

That's a fair point although I don't there's a load of top quality corner forwards in the county that we're not using. Players currently on the panel that you might look at for those corner forward positions would be:

• Coen - can blow hot and cold but he's a man who'll take on a shot if nothing else, may not have the workrate required for IC football
• Carr - shows flashes of brilliance, if he could do that even semi regularly, he'd make a huge difference for us
• Orme - started the year well but tailed off; still v young and will make it IMO
• Boland - can be very good at times, would like to see him getting more games
• McHale - has been injured too much to get a run of games, I think he could offer a lot
• Towey - played a bit during the league although generally seemed to play a good bit from goal
• M Moran - seems to be injured a lot; came on last year against Belmullet and was v poor

Anyone else? Others that might be worth a look are McStay, Heneghan & Walsh from Castlebar, Ruttledge, Colm Moran

While all teams have injuries, I think we were particularly unlucky to have two injuries in an area where we don't have great backup

Apologies for being harsh but you've got to stop soaking up all the bullsh1t that goes around these days.

Tim O'Leary and the like seem to be leading a campaign borne out of some strange entitlement that he feels he / "we" have to know all the inner workings of the county set-up.

Now RO'D might have been annoyed that CO'C took over duties... I would expect a competitive player like him to want to keep the duties, thats natural. But there's no credibility in these Twitter fantasys.

How did Kev McL start yesterday given the huge falling out himself and Horan had... These stories are dreamt up and thrown about with reckless abandon by guys out there who really haven't a clue.

If they throw enough sh1t, some of it will stick /they might get something right.

I've no doubt Horan can be blamed for certain things but there's no credibility involved when you go about blaming him for every single thing.

Off topic for the current discussion about yesterday and the future.

But does anyone know where @seligehgit went?

He/She was usually a very good poster on this thread.