Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

This is very true as well. For all the complaining that the likes of the IMNO do in the media, they never mention that it's actually their job to treat sick people and one they voluntarily studied for, trained for, applied for, and remain employed in.

If they aren't happy with the conditions - the pay, the hours, the policies, the precautions, whatever - they can always get another job. No one is forcing them to stay.

Yes fair dues .

Point is you stayed at home though , and worked from there which was the right thing .

Do you think you would have necessarily done that before ?

No desire to show anybody anything and in no position to judge anybody as anything Kaiser. Just my personal moral compass.

If I know I have something contagious I will stay out of people's ways. As I did before covid with other contagious infections.

And what you call "having been conditioned to be nervous of others in general " I call it "having empathy towards others in general ". From my point of view the key factor isn't how sick one might get (which as you rightly say isn't very likely) but more that I don't want to pass it to anyone at all.

Ever since restrictions lifted I was out and about a lot in close contact with lots of people (on top of everything I am also a frequent concert goer). I never really cared if I would catch it and I wasn't overly surprised that I did. Once I knew I had it though, my own personal code of responsibility is that I stay at home. I don't expect anyone to do the same by the way, though I also don't care to be lectured by anyone on it.

Have a great weekend Kaiser - and everyone!!

While I accept that this is your expressed opinion I can't agree with it .

No, Covid is not the same as a flu or a cold. It may feel like that to you but in nearly one fifth of people in the US for example , it results in inflammatory and autoimmune responses which cause a myriad of other medical problems .

It may be less in other countries where vaccination against the original strains was better like our own , or UK ..

Other viruses caused post viral symptoms too but to a much lesser degree , and continuing issues were the exception , and not in the high numbers that Covid causes.

Good news is that , so far , Omicron does not appear to be causing long Covid like other variants , but with the sheer numbers now being infected , that remains to be seen .

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00941-2/fulltext

People are still dying . We are averaging here 4 a day atm for an illness that is being dismissed as a cold by people , and we are highly vaccinated against it, especially those that are still dying . This is four times the death rate in an average flu season , which generally only lasts a few months a year.

Our numbers in ICU have gone up in the last few weeks but again totally in proportion to the amount of infection that is out in the community with everything back to normal , so to be expected .

I agree that the main factor is serious illness and deaths , but lets not minimise that it is still ongoing , regardless of time of year and rising in some countries due to reduced levels of vaccination and rising cases with the latest wave of Omicron variants .

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/covid-19-death-toll-four-times-higher-lower-income-countries-rich-ones

Our reactions as a society were in fact proportionate prior to vaccination, less so I agree , as more and more became protected.

It is a learning curve and where governments and health services are responsible to keep people informed and to protect everyone, from the most vulnerable to those affected by restrictions in their work, education and home lives, they for the most part tried to keep citizens safe .

I don't think history will look back in 15 to 20 years time and think they were wrong in that , at all. On the contrary .

I don't think many people are living in fear now , that is an exaggeration. Most people will listen or read the news decide on their risk level and go about their business now .

But I think people should not close their minds to the fact that we have just lived through major pandemic of our lifetime and hopefully are coming out the other side . This was not and still isn't a cold or a sniffle .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

People who persist in saying this are either kidding themselves or aren't informed , maybe afraid and projecting that fear on to others who are keeping themselves up to date to protect themselves , imo .

Not everyone took the vaccine the last time and fewer will do it this time.

What gets me is all the whinging the nurses do about the 12 hour shifts, how exhausted they are etc. There would be holy murder if they were asked to do 5*7 hour shifts. 3 long days suits them down to the ground. Many do lucrative agency work on their days off and it also suits from a childcare perspective. I believe these 12 hour shifts are illegal in Australia, they’re certainly not in the patients’ interest.

It may well be,however it does read like a HSE Press Release,with all of the quoted sources,now being well defined as on the Covid.inc side of the discussion.

There is verly little hope of a 4/10/15 year rewriting of the Covid programme responses as being anything other than Super,Fantastic and so wonderfully demonstrative of our native concern for our brothers & sisters in covid.

This is largely following the W.H.O,HSE and Western Government proclaimations on how to progress "Mass events",with the W.H.O's new Supertreaty simmering away on the side burner.

Covid-19 of itself,remains of little consequence to the vast majority of reasonable healthy individuals,with my ongoing faith being in my natural immunity to stuff.

Sadly,what we now have is a hugely divided populace,Worldwide,as normally fearful,non self-confident types have been relentlessly targeted by vast multi-national agencies and,it has to be said,bought-off educational and professional bodies targetting this fear resevoir and using it for ever more restrictive rules and behavioural guidelines.

Unfortunately it's not over yet,by a long shot.

The recent scenes at Airports Worldwide,reminded the various advising professionals that actual "ordinary people" don't,as yet,have much regard for the rareified world views of these professional "elites" who managed to collectively change the entire Western World's political & social direction for the past 2 years.

The sudden arrival of millions of "ordinaries" back at Airport Departure Gates,was simply not meant to happen...it was off script,even admitted as such by our own Dalton Phillips of the DAA as the "Modelling" totally failed to take account of the HUMAN factors so ordinarily beloved of the Avation Sector.

However,those "Ordinaries" were only assessing and deciding their actions based upon what they had actually witnessed during Covid,as in groups of Politicians and Senior Administrators/Advisers Worldwide totally ignoring the various severe restrictions being recommended to their minions.

Why were these groups ignoring the rules ?

Was it ignorance,or was it the Knowledge of the entire performance being just that....a mass experiment in Control and Direction of peoples,and their levels of response ?

That Question remains to be put,let alone answered.

One thing is certain,that Governing agencies have decided to double-down on the popularity of freely available,affordable mass travel for ANY reason by making it as difficult and uncomfortable as it can be made (except for those availing of private aviation services ).

Human nature has the ability to get Humanity back on the rails,even in the face of protracted doom mongering and "End of Days" messaging,as displayed during Glastonbury's surprise appearance by Ms Thunberg.

Reclaim our normality. 😲

WTF! Here we go again!!

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/cabinet-to-sign-off-on-new-laws-to-allow-the-government-make-mask-wearing-mandatory-in-certain-settings-41797730.html

Un-fooking-believable!! 🤬🤬

Ha ha, they've come to take your freedumbs again, time to get the ffP2 out again baby

I'd bet the teacher unions will be out in force looking for masks in schools before they return in September.

I can tell them what to do with their masks..

Unless they are just covering themselves before dail break, so they don't have to come back, but what you said makes sense

It's not even drafted. This won't be before the Dail for months.

Tbh I can see their rationale behind it (not that I agree with it, if you want to wear a mask wear one, if you don't grand, I don't care either way), it's more so if public health ever turn around and say yeah look you need to mandate masks in x,y & z then if as things stand it'd take government ages to get the bill drafted etc because there's nothing there now. Whereas whenever this goes through the Dail and lets say for example come November public health advice coming from whoever the CMO is then says you need to mandate in x,y&z then government aren't having to start from scratch and have this available.

I get your point of view, but if the advice changes in say December for example they'd literally be able to do nothing as it stands & you'd have this pissing around for weeks on end while legislation gets drawn up etc.

They're allowing themselves to have something there if the advice changes.

Mountain out of a mole hill here by everyone (media & government included). It's literally arse pocket legislation if the winter goes tits up