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NZ Tour 2022 - Māori June 29th, NZ July 2nd, NZ July 9th, Māori July 12th, NZ July 16th, KO 8.05am

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭testtech05




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    Family have Munster connections



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,002 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Awful mixup with Larmour and JOB. It looked to me like JOB called for a ball he was never going to get



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    Has Barnes been a bit harsh at breakdown against us? Two penalties and then warning against competing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    This could get very messy for Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,002 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Powerful scrum there by the Maori



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Fair enough, but he's getting isolated all the time it seems.

    They seem to have an extra man outside every single time



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Barnes is giving everything against us, fcuking hate being the away team when he’s involved as homer a ref as you’ll ever get



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,757 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    He's not blowing for them at all around the ruck, the turnover after Caseys snipe looked illegal.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Penalties are absolutely killing Ireland



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,002 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Poor fare from us, some words needed at half time



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Some of them look a bit harsh alright, including the last one on Treadwell there he was pinned in and the ball was still available it looked like.


    Another try. Need halftime at this stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Mr Clever


    Woeful stuff, embarrassing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    We just have no foothold whatsoever in the game, bar afew minutes in the lead up to the try we are just getting the ball and immediately kicking it away as we havent much option.



  • Registered Users Posts: 762 ✭✭✭starkid


    far too many average players in this side. looks like we have a depth problem still. we are a few injuries away from disaster



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Pack have been disappointing, penalties and Maori ruck speed is killing us.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Awful awful, Jimmy o Brien and Earls get them off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    This is getting ugly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,757 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    What is Earls at there?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Such aimless kicking by O Brien



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Disappointing defence and chase there. Thought JOB did well to put pressure on and slow it after his kick. Defence was porous after that.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    That's really really poor from multiple players



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Maori completely butchered that 3 on 1 and still scored.....





  • Our lord and saviour Ciaran Frawley has mastered the revolving door impression



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    On the plus side, this is increasingly likely to become my case in point for the 'throw caution to the wind' start all the 'shiny new thing' players crowd.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    This can't be the same Wayne Barnes that reffed the Leinster v LAR game. If it is then he must be completely confused about the rules of the game from week to week.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    One of JOB’s better kicks and chase, but a couple of lads (including Earls this time) really poor after that….



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    Someone needs to tell O'Brien to stop kicking the ball to them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Utterly embarrassed. Some of these are not even close to international quality against a mix and match Māori side.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Some of the pack looked absolutely gassed there...barely jogging on the chase back.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Pretty poor showing, the aimless kicking away of the ball constantly as frustrating as the number of penalties given away



  • Registered Users Posts: 762 ✭✭✭starkid


    Possibly the worst performance of any Irish team?

    In the overall scheme of things it doesn't matter. but you'd worry how leggy they look.

    Yeah there's not a chance we win a test here if thats the general levels of energy.

    But you'd probably only take 4 players from this side. (definitely doesn't include JOB)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    He's not alone by any means..

    Not a single player has advanced their cause in that half



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,757 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    That kick was absolutely fine, pity none of his team mates could be arsed breaking past a jog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭crisco10


    I thought the same thing. Then I reckoned LAR were probably better at making things a mess on d than our 2nd team



  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Ramasun


    This is not JOB's game, it's just not working for him today, every time he touches the ball we concede a try. He's following a game plan but his execution has been poor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Cork29


    Playing like lady boys



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Have, Hume, Timoney even been mentioned?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    We've literally just sat back and let the Maori play for 40 minutes, we've contributed nothing to this match for 40 minutes straight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭RoscommonHero


    Woeful, that pack is so weak, our backs are playing terrible, JOB alone has been at fault for 2 and possibly 3 tries, some of these lads do not deserve caps, pathetic, on top of that Barnes is giving them everything. We are getting hammered by an average team here



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Coombes and McCarthy going well but we’ve been really poor beyond that…

    JOB’c kicking and fielding has been poor imo, and we’ve been over-compensating/over-folding for Casey in defence a couple of times which is causing gaps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Both made decent half breaks in the initial moments of game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 762 ✭✭✭starkid


    Jimmy O Brien is kak, and a four try run in has given Leinster fans some weird perception of him. He's bang average. ANd its laughable how Leinster fans just think anything in blue is magic or can be worked into something greater than their ceiling.

    He's not Keenan mark 2. HK is a special player. JOB seems similar and played 7s. but he's levels below HK ability.

    On natural ability and excluding Aki you'd take Hume, Coombes, Casey, Frawley from this side for the immediate future.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭einn32


    Maori building a lead in typical fashion. Ireland trying to slow the ball isn't working out. Barnes is having none of it.

    Irish heads have dropped I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Madeoface


    Thank god I've got to go to work now. Jaisus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Our back 3 are doing their best to play themselves out of the test team.

    It's very frustrating because we look good in the rare moments we get possession.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    Where is a Mike Haley?

    We have a centre at our half and a wing deputing at full back.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That was an utterly atrocious half of rugby, with almost zero positives to take from it.

    Keith Earls has been an utter embarrassment in that half; ball watching, missing straight up tackles, giving up on the chase, quitting before that try at half time assuming it had been knocked on.

    Jimmy O'Brien has kicked the ball away badly and made bad decisions virtually every time he touched the ball.

    Bundee Aki badly shown up for his lack of pace by Josh Ioane on multiple occasions.

    Zero control from Frawley and Casey. Every thing Casey does looks unplanned and frantic.

    Pack is completely callow and devoid of leadership.

    Wayne Barnes' inability to referee the breakdown is infuriating, and his ignoring the Maori repeatedly clearing out yards past the ruck, but why can Irish packs never learn to adapt?

    Only Irish players for me to emerge for me with any modicum of credit are Gavin Coombes who has looked physical and Kieran Treadwell who has showed a lot of effort, albeit making some sloppy errors a long with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Discipline and defense is what's killing us. We're all over the place in those departments. Guys like Prendergast, Loughman and Treadwell and McCarthy too eager to make a big impression. JOB has been poor too.

    In attack we actually look pretty good. But we've had so little of the ball we've hardly been able to show it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Can’t blame the lack of cohesion when the opposition are in the same boat. Too many lads playing individual games, McCarthy and Prendegast running around like headless chickens.

    Maoris putting two lads back for kicks, one to take the tackle and the other to run it back.



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