What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Slight problem with all that lovely stuff. It doesn't answer my question.

That's the other knotty problem for you. You're either forgetful, projecting expectations, or plain lying, but I have never denied and fully acknowledge racism as the factor it is and numerous times in this thread I have stated quite clearly that racism institutional and personal is a major, if not the major factor of why some demographics end up screwed over in multicultural societies*. I've repeated it again for the hard of reading.

And if you are namechecking America as an example of multiculturalism that works I really don't know what to say to that. Oh it can work if you're White or East Asian, not so much if you're Black. The gulf between the average White American and Black American experience is a very wide one as your links quite correctly point out. America is and certainly has been for most of its history a primarily White Christian European nation and culture and White Christian Europeans did the best out of it(though there were flashpoints even there). There's a reason the BLM movement kicked off there.

Again, answer my question; point out a Western multicultural nation, with all their different background cultures, histories, politics and policies where we don't see the exact same trends playing out and over generations with it. We can go back and forth with all the reasons why, and some do better than others(America being one of the worst) but the fact remains no nation has been able to surmount these seemingly intractable issues and negatives. Which is kinda funny for such a positive and Accepted Truth and politic. But of course Ireland alone among nations will break this cycle...

*Though not all of the picture of course as the disparity of outcomes between the aforementioned Pakistani and Indian populations demonstrates and any actual racists won't care about any nuance as they usually don't.

If you don't deny institutional racism and all that (you're on your own amongst your friends here who all deny it btw

Please point out posters who've claimed racism doesn't exist, institutionalised or no. I fear you'll be digging for a long time. Another one of your attempts to frame the imaginary narrative you think exists, because it suits you to think that it exists as it's easier to dismiss and avoid debate on the matter.

Why not in the interest of fairness be interested in redressing the imbalances. The good news is that these things are being addressed and slowly but surely it will happen.

It's a worthy cause to be sure, and I do not say that mockingly, but to paraphrase the Reverend Martin Luther King junior*: "I have a pipedream". While legislation tempers the excesses of human nature it can't hope to change it and we can see that in hard realities. As I've pointed out some nations do better than others but there isn't a single example among all those nations where legislation and education has changed the same trends kicking off in every single case. I can't think of a multicultural Western nation where BLM didn't strike a chord among their Black and Brown peoples. For the craic actually listen to Black voices on the matter. They have to deal with the BS at the sharp end.

Though I admire MLK immensely, I always preferred Malcolm X and him to be more realistic in his thinking and how he came to think like that. Of course they both died in a hail of bullets for their trouble and fifty years later BLM was needed.