Are men or women more romantic in your view?

Who is the target audience for most romantic books and films? I think that's your answer right there.

I’m not sure you could call the sort of fantasies the guys you’re talking about are having “romantic”.

So what you're saying that these chumps have to just wait a while until they'll get the one they want because of their fertility.

You've just given me a sublime parenting tip for my sons.

Wait until you're older. The one you fancied the arse off for ages when you are 22 is now desperate. With a lordly like raise of the hand say, "bathe her and bring her to me".

Did I get that right?

Pragmatic part will take another post. Suppose it answers which sex is more romantic.

Don't knock it.

True but if you think some of the bestselling books of all time that men like, like The Lord of the Rings, there is a lot of romanticism in that too.

I'd go with dicks.

Women expect to be "romanced" whilst men are expected to be romantic.

In hetero relationships at least, tho even at that? The most actually romantic relationships I've encountered have been male - male.

I have no theory as to the how's or why's, my sample size is small and it's not a hypothesis I'd care to defend to the world 😉

That said, romance in my experience is very much an action undertaken by men and received by women. I'd go so far as to say that's why so viral vids and stories of the contrary, of a woman's romantic gesture gain traction.

On top of all that, what's the line between romance and genuine thoughtfulness and consideration? Because, women IMO are far, far better at that, at shaping a gift, experience or gesture to the recipient. Whereas us men? Well, we try and sometimes even have success but when the "romance" dies? It's likely us that killed it.

Would agree with you that relationships develop, they change over time and the good ones get better.

Romance is a start, thoughtfulness, love, support and consideration are the goal.

The OP of this thread? And his transactional view of life and relationships? Won't, but he will keep rolling over ways to make the failures someone else's fault, it's what he does 😉🤷‍♂️

Nah, not a woman unless they are playing a blinder as a troll. A longstanding proponent of the auld incel type of BS and always the victim of those conniving wimmins

That really depends on if the woman wants to have kids or not.

True connivance would be coming home with a sleeve of Yorkies and telling her "They're not for girls" before sticking on CoD and telling her you'll be up later and if she plays her cards right, she can lick your chocolatey fingers😉😂

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Women watch alot of romantic films, read mills and boon books , but they are also very down to earth and practical. Women like sex, men like sex, most people who get married fall in love. Women expect to be romanced, courted, given presents, flowers, we are not at the stage where everything is equal yet. So you might say women are more interested in romance, but there has to be romance love on both sides of you want to be in a good relationship