Breaking... US Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

This just isn't true, Republicans continuously state that their policies will help those in poverty. Just because they never actually help them doesn't make a difference. We saw many of them happily claim they had a role in COVID investments that assisted poor communities that the Democrats passed and these same Republicans voted against.

Wow - you really want them to get a pat on the back for abolishing things that they themselves created? Even then many of these items conservatives fought against and undermined nearly instantly via Jim Crow laws right to this day with blatant gerrymandering by race within Republican run states and SCOTUS striking down the Voter Rights Act

The words of this man mean nothing - during his confirmation he said that on Roe v Wade “Once a case is settled, that adds to the determinacy of the law. What was once a hotly contested issue is no longer a hotly contested issue. We move forward.” 

You must be a bit slow on the uptake then. Pro-birthers is exactly what Republicans are - they only care about a child being born and want to provide basically no help to them from the time they take their first breath.

You must be a bit slow on the uptake then.

I must be when a position which is held by the majority of people in society is somehow perceived as a slight or an unreasonable position to hold, but have it your way. I’m not so slow on the uptake that I realise a reasoned discussion is an impossibility and a waste of our time. Night now 👌

Without the weakening of Covid through the Omicron variant we were moving towards vaccine mandates, this was a hot topic at the beginning of this year, thankfully it never got to that point but it was an enormously prominent part of the discourse around covid at that time and by extension very much part of the news cycle.

Where you got the notion that vaccine mandates could or would be enforced through putting people in jail is anyone's guess as it was not part of the conversation anywhere.

So much for facts and feelings, you're making outlandish claims and stating them as facts.

The simple point I made was that a lot of people of "the left" were Gung go for vaccine mandates and to hell with peoples bodily autonomy, a big government program of vaccine mandates was to be celebrated, but when the bodily autonomy of somebody (we can't say a woman anymore) seeking an abortion is brought up that's a problem.

It should be simple to understand that supporting (even only in theory by virtue of the fact that happenstance caused it never to be implemented) a big government plan to mandate vaccinations and at the same time seeing bodily autonomy as an inalienable right in a different setting should rightly be seen as hypocrisy.

Let's face it, if the boot was on the other foot so to speak and "the right" were guilty of something similar, you'd be banging that drum until the cows came home.

It's the absolute dishonesty of your posting that really grates, you slandered me earlier and you couldn't have the good grace to apologize. I've had countless heated interactions with Overheal over the years but in fairness he recently made a statement that was beyond the pale and didn't hesitate to apologise (in the best way he could without completely losing face) when I pulled him up on it, we all have to admit wrongdoing at different points, I've had to do it plenty of times. You on the other hand are a truly reprehensible and dishonest individual who twists and contorts peoples words in any way possible to "win" an argument. You should be ashamed of yourself but such a concept seems to be beyond you.

This ruling ignored years of legal precedent, imagine if the Irish supreme Court decided only 21 year olds can buy a drink , only married people can buy contraceptives , its basically saying if something is not on the law books in the 1700,s, 1800,s it' can be challenged in the supreme Court

America is mostly composed of protestants. Muslims, Jews, or aethists,mormons Catholics are in a minority. 21 per cent according to wikipedia

The supreme Court is going against the majority of americans, 60 per cent plus of adults are in favor of the right to abortion. It seems ready to strike down any law that discriminates against people who are Christians

No one was forced to get a vaccine, most offices and business, s asked their staff to get a vaccine to protect the public and fellow employees also to travel to certain country's you need to show proof of vaccinaxation

Close enough. A few more letters and you're in Mississippi

The availability of abortion is, in itself, far from sufficient to relieve poverty.

But the availability of comprehensive family planning including abortion rights, ideally free of charge, is necessary to relieve poverty. We only have to look at our own history to see that and not that far back either.

Making women give birth to children they can't afford while not providing adequate (or any) supports is just punishing the poor by making them poorer. No wonder it gives right-wingers the horn.

Lead by example if you would.

(the irony of this coming from BS)

So can grapefruit juice believe it or not as well

The same scenarios should be compared.

Not two things you just proclaim are the same.

Your mental gymnastics are apparent for all to see. Your agenda? it has been described by others as "backwoods"

Allowing states to force religious rules on its citizens...

Who votes in the legislators? They're self-governing states, the legislatures write the laws full stop. Irish people could vote in legislators to repeal abortion legislation here - there's nothing 'dis-allowing' that nor is there in the United Kingdom.

Besides which the whole point of blocking establishment of religion was to prevent one religion from lording it over all the others, as happened in 18th century Britain with the Church of England.

If you could somehow force atheist government, customs, and beliefs on everyone that would be totally against the spirit of the law as it would be the establishment of a favoured metaphysical belief (not a religion or church as such, but a uniform belief about creation (or lack thereof) and how people should live because of that belief).

You continue to bat at a strawman - I've never said abortion is a way to alleviate poverty. It is well accepted that banning abortion impacts poor women more, as rich women will have more options to get them as needed.

How does enforced birth have nothing to do with the discussion of banning abortion here? It is exactly what Republicans are now enforcing, even when the life of the mother is at stake or the pregnancy wasn't consensual.

You're completely wrong but as usual you're incapable of admitting it.

The issue of bodily autonomy does display a double standard within the generally accepted left wing narrative.

You keep mentioning masks which I never even mentioned.

And for your information, the thing I took issue with was referring to me as an anti vax anti mask snowflake.

For contrast the left have been correctly stating that the right in America are all for the pro life narrative but also demand that the right to bare arms never be called into question. Blatant hypocrisy, just like the left and their a la Carter attitude towards bodily autonomy.

Your problem is that your worldview is so incredibly limiting that you can't see beyond the end of your own nose or even imagine a scenario where somebody might disagree with you and be anything other than right wing.

Just because I'm not lambasting the right I must be ignoring their hypocrisy and supporting them according to you, if you want to talk about the hypocrisy of the right we'll get onto it once you acknowledge the hypocrisy of the left.

Ultimately both the left and the right are equally capable of being hypocrites but neither can admit their own hypocrisy. Both groups are like raging narcissists, nothing is Ever their fault, I belong to neither for the record.