Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

01-07-2022 1:49pm

@bad2thebone You'll just go 'round in circles, and circles... endlessly. He's been here over 10 years, as has the other guy. Not even joking. All day, all night. Same bullsh*t. They need to get a girlfriend (or boyfriend, to be politically correct, lol).

Seriously, picture being here for 10 years or more, going through the same constant rigmarole, and not even getting paid for it 🤣

Their parents or flatmates must come in and be like "you're still on that website? It's 3am, ffs".... "but there's conspiwacy theorwists spreading DiSiNfOrMaTiOn; my work is not done". Hahahaha.

Whocare · 01-07-2022 1:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119275328#Comment_119275328

You asked me what questions?

The Nal · 01-07-2022 2:04pm

Crying laughing emojis. Cringe.

Fighting Tao · 01-07-2022 2:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119275818#Comment_119275818

So you don’t know the difference between reality and imagination. Explains so much.

01-07-2022 2:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276033#Comment_119276033

Ah, would ya stop, guinea pig. Ya got owned, like the other two always do 😄

Next.

Fighting Tao · 01-07-2022 2:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276046#Comment_119276046

Owned by a person who thinks that everything Schwab says will come true even when he himself identifies as using his imagination? Wow. You’re delusional.

01-07-2022 2:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276069#Comment_119276069

Like I said, he has a very good track record. He was writing about nanotechnology before you'd ever heard of it. Now its in your body...

I'll side with Schwab's "imagination" on the chip, too. You will be implanted 😉

King Mob · 01-07-2022 2:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119275818#Comment_119275818

What nanotechnology was in the vaccines?

King Mob · 01-07-2022 2:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119275946#Comment_119275946

Which is more likely to cause blood clots, getting the vaccine or getting covid?

It was a simple question. I asked you many times. You keep dodging it because you can't answer it honestly.

01-07-2022 2:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276148#Comment_119276148

"Understanding the nanotechnology in COVID-19 vaccines:"

"Lipid nanoparticles are a vital component of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, playing a key role in protecting and transporting the mRNA effectively to the right place in cells. They are next generation liposomes that use nanotechnology and are well suited to stable and efficient delivery of various therapeutics."

https://www.cas.org/resource/blog/understanding-nanotechnology-covid-19-vaccines

Moderna, the other mRNA, refer to their tech as the "software of life". Lol.

You (and most others) clearly don't even know what you're taking. "Trust The Science" or whatever, anyway.

King Mob · 01-07-2022 3:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276206#Comment_119276206

Ok. Earlier in the thread, people like yourself were claiming that there was nanotechnology in the vaccine that would do something like alter DNA, track people or adapt them for a later implantation for a microchip.

Your link explains what the nanotechnology actually does. You agree that the claims being made by the conspiracy theorists on this thread are false.

So why are you concerned about this Nanotechnology?

Dohnjoe · 01-07-2022 3:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276206#Comment_119276206

Conspiracy theorists believe there are magnets and nanobots and all that in the vaccines. So whenever I see Nanotechnology mentioned on a conspiracy forum it usually refers to that quackery. Many have an irrational fear that technology will be nefariously used to "control" them.

As for your personal fear of mRNA vaccines, from the link you provided:

"Although mRNA vaccines have received much global interest as they are a new type of drug, lipid nanoparticles have held a recognised position in the mainstream of drug delivery systems (DDS) since the discovery of liposomes in the 1960s."

I don't see any issue with it, and some believe it could be a key part of cancer treatment in the future. No offense but I am slightly more concerned about pandemics/cancer than I am of imaginary plots to "control" us with microchips and all that.

01-07-2022 3:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276390#Comment_119276390

I never said anything about a "microchip in the vaccine". You'll have to pull up the specific quote and take it up with the poster in question directly, whoever that was.

You're doing that amateur tactic again of "you agree that bla bla bla". I speak for myself. Sometimes people here agree with each other, sometimes not. It's human nature. Why are you always trying to merge everyone's opinion together? So odd.

The other day you were having a go at someone for posting links from Twitter. You do realise that over on the Ukraine thread, your friend DohnJoe was constantly dumping Twitter links, right? He was the "Resident Twitter reporter" for a few weeks, haha. That's kind of awkward for you two.

Anyway, you didn't even know there was nanotechnology in the shots you've taken until I just showed you. Embarrassing. Not much point in talking to you, is there?

King Mob · 01-07-2022 3:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276461#Comment_119276461

You're rambling.

I said that you agree that those conspiracy theories are all nonsense. If that's not the case, please feel free to correct me.

Had I asked you directly if you supported those claims, we'd be pages trying to get a straight answer out of you.

I keep asking you conspiracy theorists to comment on each other's conspiracies because it's a good illustration of how dishonest you guys are. None of you will comment on each others conspiracy theories even when they're completely contradictory to yours and even when they're obviously silly. At the same time, when it suits, you guys like to pretend you're all on the same team and are all claiming the same stuff.

I asked you to explain what your concern about the nanotechnology was. Can you answer than now please?

01-07-2022 3:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276506#Comment_119276506

Rewriting history from 15 mins ago now, are ya, haha. You didn't ask me to "explain what the concern was with nanotechnology". The question you asked was: "What nanotechnology was in the vaccines?" IE: you didn't even know what was injected into you until I showed you. How can you be taken seriously on anything?

Anyway, get off the computer and go outside. Your brain is fried, and need of a software update. They'll have a new shot for ya in the Winter. Good luck.

Whocare · 01-07-2022 3:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276156#Comment_119276156

At my age getting vaccine. This is why I'm taking calculated risk for time being not getting any booster

hometruths · 01-07-2022 3:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119274567#Comment_119274567

Ok. So according to you, these side effects make it so that the vaccine isn't worth the risk.

I asked you to confirm because this is a very silly argument.

If that's not what you were arguing, then you should have specified.

That's not what I am saying King Mob, and you well know it. This is why people ignore you. You are disingenuous, to put it mildly.

Let's take hospitalisation as an effect of either vaccine or virus.

Clearly if you are 85 and overweight, the risk that you will end up in hospital is higher from Covid, than from the vaccine. Thus you'd be a fool not to take the vaccine.

But it's not about the relative risk between the vaccine and the virus, which is why your question is silly. It's about the risk/benefit of taking the vaccine. In the above case the benefit of taking the vaccine is avoiding hospitalisation.

But if you're 18 and fit and healthy, the risk benefit analysis is entirely different. Your risk of ending up hospitalised from Covid is minuscule. And what other benefits do the vaccines offer? None it would appear.

Given that a vaccinated overweight over 65 year old faces a far higher risk of ending up in hospital from Covid than an unvaccinated fit and healthy 18 year old it is clear that the risk factor for hospitalisation is not your vaccination status.

Hence this is totally ridiculous:

And again it brings the question youre so afraid of around.

Which is more likely, the side effects of the vaccine or the effects of the virus.

We know you won't answer this. Why know why you won't answer this.

Nobody is ignoring that question because they're afraid of it, they're ignoring it because it is total nonsense without context.

Fighting Tao · 01-07-2022 3:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276112#Comment_119276112

He imagines different futures. Seeing that you claim he has a good track record, how many imaginations have come to be, and how many have not?

Dohnjoe · 01-07-2022 3:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276595#Comment_119276595

Can you support that?

Any study I've seen so far shows that the risk of clots is far higher with Covid and in the period of 6 months after contracting Covid

King Mob · 01-07-2022 3:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276595#Comment_119276595

Ok. Please show the evidence you have read that says that it's more likely that you'll get a blood clot from the vaccine.

King Mob · 01-07-2022 3:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276623#Comment_119276623

Lol. You're dodging the question and you know it.

But if you're 18 and fit and healthy, the risk benefit analysis is entirely different. Your risk of ending up hospitalised from Covid is minuscule. And what other benefits do the vaccines offer? None it would appear.

Note the very careful language you use.

What are the chances of that 18 year old ending up hospitalised due to the vaccine?

Are those chances higher or lower than for covid?

Also, if you're now saying that those minor side effects are not what you believe makes the vaccine too risky, why did you provide them as examples of side effects that make the vaccine too risky?

What side effects do you believe that make the vaccines not worth the risk? Be specific.

Whocare · 01-07-2022 4:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276640#Comment_119276640

My evidence is real world ie I have small enough group of friends and two have got blood clot

King Mob · 01-07-2022 4:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276955#Comment_119276955

No, sorry, that's not convincing or a rational thing to believe. You don't know that those were caused by the vaccine. (If they even actually happened.)

I asked you to supply the studies you've read that shows that you're more likely to get a blood clot from the vaccine.

Please just link to the study you're based this conclusion on.

patnor1011 · 01-07-2022 6:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119275064#Comment_119275064

Please do not discredit good work done with multiple vaccines developed and used making them equal with current pfizer and moderna experimental mrna jabs.

They are not even comparable since vaccines used to be developed and tested with a great deal of care before they were introduced on market. What happened with latest jabs is a shame since it was not even tested properly and instead of offering it to the most vulnerable people it was shoved down the throat of majority of the people who did not even needed it.

That much we all already know.

01-07-2022 7:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119277263#Comment_119277263

Yet still can't produce any proof of the risk being greater than contracting COVID. We've got millions of deaths on one side and vague claims about vaccines on other.

Whocare · 01-07-2022 7:14pm

I'm quite surprised about denial I'm seeing here . No one is saying vaccine isn't good but me anyway I wouldn't be getting any booster anytime soon.

Looks like booster every 6 months FFS no hope of young and healthy especially when COVID is nothing to write home about

patnor1011 · 01-07-2022 7:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119277479#Comment_119277479

They talk about millions of deaths yet fail to mention that absolute majority of them were people way over average life expectancy with three or more serious comorbidities.

Very few deaths happened outside this unfortunate group of people which should have been prime focus for care and protection. We all know nursing homes fiasco and why it happened. We know more since then so no wonder why many of the people outside of the most vulnerable groups who took first jab or two, do not bother to go for booster.

Do not be concerned with our expert factcheckers. There is no denial here they are hard at work to stifle down anything that go against their religion.

Oh and by the way did you know we have pandemic of vaccinated right now? Hospitals are full of them :)

odyssey06 · 01-07-2022 8:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119277581#Comment_119277581

"Protect the vulnerable" says the poster with no clue how the vulnerable could be protected in a society which allows covid to run rampant...

Life expectancy at age 80 is different to life expectancy at birth. Anyone who trots out the line about life expectancy is either ignorant (they should know that) or dishonest (they know that but conceal it in an attempt to deceive).

During the first wave of the pandemic, the age cohort with the most ICU admissions from covid was 55-64.

The reason why very few deaths happened in Ireland outside of the most vulnerable, was that ICU and hospital capacity was there to treat those who could be saved.

Vaccinations of all adult helped to reduce transmission of covid (short - medium term effect) and for those age cohorts at lower risk of covid reduced it still further, helping to ease strain on health services.

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-19intensivecareadmissions/Wave1_report_ICU_website.pdf

astrofool · 01-07-2022 8:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119273708#Comment_119273708

Pedantic man strikes again, all that matters is that the efficacy was proven and the trials were massive hence you were proving my statement correct (and still are but you still haven't noticed it yet).

It's almost cruel at this stage, but also hilarious.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119272870#Comment_119272870

Guess DrFrost is a welcher (in addition to probably being buzzer).

King Mob · 01-07-2022 11:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119277479#Comment_119277479

Sorry, you seem to have missed my question.

What studies have you read to support your conclusion that the vaccine causes more blood clots than covid.

Please link to the papers and pointout where they show that.

Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

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