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EasyGo public chargers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭society4


    Are lidl chargers 22kw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    Do the EasyGo chargers at Lidl also charge the 27c access fee?

    If so, that would bring it up to €2.25, give or take.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭cython


    Any of the AC ones I've used/looked up seem to be.

    Remains to be seen. No access fee was mentioned in the mail from EasyGo, and obviously there wasn't one with free charging, but I think all the chargers that have a fee seem to do so. SuperValu in Dunboyne made a similar change in recent months (from free charging to a fee per unit), and they now have an access fee on their chargers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭society4


    Excuse my ev ignorance, but would you get much charging done in 45 mins done in a lidl charger ….would it be around 20% or less?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭cython


    Percentages depend a lot on the size of the battery in the car, but also the on-board charger. With a 39kWh battery you should get 25% or so in an hour if it has an 11kW charger (pretty commonplace in BEVs), but that would only be approx 16% of a 64kWh battery.

    The few cars with 22kW chargers like the Renault Zoé, on the other hand can really make hay on them as they'll pull the full 22kW, and with a 52kWh battery, that's about 40% in an hour, 30% in 45 mins.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭innrain


    Possible. There is no mention of that but I'd say it is very likely they will add it.

    At the AC charging points no. I opt for DC charging while shopping if I have the choice. However, one can argue that once they are paying for charging can be there as long as the parking rules allows it, without being a shop customer. If they are paying for it we still call it hogging?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Hi folks,

    Tried easy go charger today..session stopped after 40 minutes?


    11kw so wanted a few hours charge


    Do they randomly disconnect?


    Cheers,

    Mick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Did you run out of credit on your account? I know they used to stop the session without notifying you about this in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭micks_address


    No I went back and started again but it was only charging at 4kwh. Switched to next port and it charged at 11kwh and topped up the car in an hour..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Easygo got back to me.. I had like 2 euro on my account when I started the charge. I immediately topped up but it limited the power based on my account balance. Worked fine since. Just need to make sure funds are on account before starting charge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭cannco253


    They really need to fix the app to notify users of when their balance is low, a right pita when it happens.

    I’ve been on to them a few times about it but little to no feedback. App hasn’t been updated in 5 months (4.04)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    "Featured" article (paid) discussing chargers at hotels provided by easygo and benefits to hotels. Again easygo is looking for installs at hotels and mentioning 50kW chargers at hotels. I really enjoyed a 50kW charge at a hotel in past along with good toilets and good food from hotel.


    https://www.hotelandrestauranttimes.ie/2022/07/19/electric-vehicle-charging-the-key-to-attracting-more-guests/




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I'd argue that if you are no longer charging for free you are now a customer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭cannco253



    “MAYO County Council is close to agreeing a deal with Irish company EasyGo for the installation of Electric Vehicle (EV) chargers around the county.

    Currently there are just four fast chargers in place but this will increase to 19 with 15 new 50KW EV charge points.

    The company will also install another six AC chargers in other locations where the ESB power isn't strong enough to support the fast chargers (DC).”



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Great to see EasyGo installing a DC only charger with an AC socket located nearby, finally an operator installing a destination charger that I actually agree with.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Agreed and 75kW peak and the ability to charge 2 cars at once but one needs to be chademo, other CCS and they need to physically be able to both park in reach of the charger. I hope the site is open 24/7 and I hope it gets enough business to prove that there is demand. I would have preferred a second 50kW+ unit or at least groundworks for such. It also looks like ground is painted funny expecting only one car on 75kW charger and parked in centre. Why they can't mount them like petrol pumps I will never understand.

    Easygo need to up their game now and start rolling out hubs at key locations, even if it's just one 50+kW charger but with ducting for many more. It would signal that they are serious and intend playing in the big boys game. They also have one in NI at a Lidl so they could have the reach.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Not a fan of load balancing on these style chargers, I don't like the idea that my charging time is affected by whether or not somebody plugs in next to me.

    Until we see wide deployment of the kempower style distributed systems I'd prefer to see 2 75kW chargers instead of 1 load balancing 150kW. I think charging predictably is more important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,726 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Hotels only need AC as guests will be parked up over night.


    DC chargers are more expensive and will be blocked by a user over night and possibly much of the day before. A drink or three with dinner and they can’t move it



  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭dsandson


    Yet Tesla apparently do a good job of using hotels for some of their Supercharger stations. They have facilities on offer (toilets, food and drink) are generally well lit with plenty of users around so are excellent for personal security.

    Yes overnight guests are best suited to slow AC units but hotels can have a part to play with charger hubs for those en-route, and gain additional customers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭innrain


    A combination AC/DC works. I prefer a lunch in a hotel to some grub in a service station.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,715 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Not being funny, but I wonder should they be advertised as 2x 75kW and with max capacity of 150kW when sole-occupied. That way the received rate is clearly understood and you can plan for the longer duration, rather than the inverse.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I think I saw it in Bjorn video once, he was using a similar delta charger as to the new 150kW/200kW eCars have deployed. By the default the user was given half the charging capacity but could press an extra button to charge at double the rate. If eCars used a similar system then at least the person starting the charge would know they weren't going to slow down based on the actions of someone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    For sure, that's better than arriving at a "150kW site" and only getting half that. Clear information is the key here.

    I hit the load balancing issue with a 150kW eCars charger recently.... didn't get beyond 88kW as another car was on site pulling 50kW!




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    We should take what the give us folks, beggars can't be choosers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    The easygo 75kW units are 75kW max, and with 2 cars you presumably get half depending on the way load sharing is handled.

    Load sharing is a reality, even Tesla does this and with very high power most cars only peak top power for a few minutes anyway.

    It is confusing and many users expect to get the power stated even when their car may not be able to accept that power level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    And with eCars you pay a higher premium for those higher power u it’s, despite getting half the advertised speed if you happen to be sharing the charger with a Leaf…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Official launch of easygo chargers in Finglas. Note mention of car club, hopefully they will stay on AC or have dedicated reserved charger and spaces. It looks like one side of AC may be reserved car club spot.


    One DC charger now a "hub"...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    At least load sharing with a leaf on a 150kW unit you're still getting 100kW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    No your not, the charger is split into 2x 75kW modules.... So even if the opposite side is only pulling 25kW (approaching high SoC%), the other side is always limited to 75kW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    You have to give credit to EasyGo. They are quietly going about their business installing more and more AC & DC chargers... so kudos to them.

    I'd even go as far as to say they are installing units at a faster rate than eCars... (even only counting DC chargers as eCars dont do dedicated AC anymore)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Indeed. eCars for the win........

    Basically it's a 150kW charger when only the CCS side is being used, but once a car plugs into the other side, it immediately becomes a 75kW charger.. and regardless of whether you are getting 150kW or 75kW, you are paying the premium price above the standard pricing for 50kW units.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    The EasyGo plans in Mayo looks great, hopefully they'll do the same in a few other counties.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭innrain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Offaly is an offaly long way away for a lot of folk, so fast chargers here is a big win....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭Kramer


    The EasyGo network is today used by more than 30,000 Irish EV drivers

    I assume they're conflating eCars charge points to arrive at that "30,000" drivers using their network?

    Tritium’s world-first, next-generation simultaneous DC Rapid Charger

    Big into the marketing........Ireland's biggest........world-first........next-gen......

    Are they just 75kW DC units with the capacity to charge two cars simultaneously? If one is CHAdeMO & they represent 10% of EVs (& dwindling), it's in effect, just a single 75kW DC.

    If they are on main streets, where phone kiosks ubiquitously were, parking will likely be restricted to one car anyway or if two spaces are marked, just one will likely be suitable given charge port locations.

    It's progress & they are a private company so fair dues, but we really need multiple unit hubs with 150kW DC chargers (min 75/75 split). I can also see charges for these becoming very expensive, into the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    The new EV chargers to be installed in Offaly will be in the following locations:

    ● Tullamore

    ● Edenderry

    ● Birr

    ● Kilmalogue, Portarlington


    ● Clara

    ● Banagher

    ● Ferbane

    ● Daingean

    ● Kilcormac

    ● Shinrone

    ● Rhode

    That's a good group of places but I presume they will be mostly single chargers and hard to rely on in case they are in use, blocked or broken, but great to see more sites that could grow based on demand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭Boscoirl




    EasyGo, Ireland’s largest car charging network provider, has announced that it will invest more than €600,000 in the installation of thirteen new fast electric vehicle (EV) charging stations in county Tipperary.

    This installation is performed in partnership with eir, Ireland’s leading telecommunications provider, and Tipperary County Council.

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    eir and EasyGo have joined forces to develop new charging points across the country, to accommodate the growing number of EVs on our roads.


    This unique partnership creates an opportunity to transform a service that once provided vital public access to telephones into supports for the future of low-carbon transportation.

    According to the Society of the Irish Motor Industry, about one out of every seven cars sold in Ireland so far this year are fully electric, with the rate of adoption growing quickly.

    Adding these chargers, in easily accessible town centre locations, will increase the appeal of EVs for drivers, greatly extending the accessibility of charging points and thus the range of the vehicles.

    Transport accounts for one third of Ireland’s energy-related CO2 emissions so increased adoption of EVs is a key aspect of Ireland's Climate Action Plan.

    The EasyGo network is today used by more than 30,000 Irish EV drivers who can avail of charging at more than 2,400 charge-points nationally.

    Marcus O’Connor, Director of Services for Roads, Transportation and Infrastructure, said that “Tipperary County Council is delighted to collaborate with EasyGo and eir in the provision of EV charging stations and to continue leading on the reduction of CO2 emissions”.

    Oliver Loomes, CEO eir, said that “Radical transformation is required to meet the challenge of climate change. At eir, we are committed to playing our part in the creation of a greener, more sustainable Ireland. In order for Ireland to move to electric vehicles, we must have the required infrastructure in place, not just in cities, but across all of the country. We are proud to partner with EasyGo and Tipperary County Council to assist in the installation of EV charging points across Tipperary. We are in discussion with other Local Authorities across the country about similar programmes and, wherever possible, we will replace unused eir payphone kiosks with rapid EV charging units and we will continue to assist in making the transition to EV ownership more viable.”

    EasyGo founder and technical director Chris Kelly expressed his delight at this agreement: “EasyGo is on a mission to decarbonise transport, and our partnership with eir can go a long way to achieving that.

    “To include 13 locations in Tipperary will be a great improvement of infrastructure in the county, and we are grateful for the active engagement from the leadership and wider team at Tipperary County Council.”

    The locations where new EV chargers are to be installed in Tipperary have been chosen based on population centres, a county-wide distribution and are expected to be: Ballina; Borrisokane; Cahir; Carrick-on-Suir; Cashel; Clonmel; Fethard; Nenagh; Newport; Roscrea; Templemore; Thurles and Tipperary Town.

    These installations mark the continuation of the rollout of this programme national.

    Throughout this programme, EasyGo and eir will utilise Tritium’s world first, next-generation simultaneous DC Rapid Chargers, adding up to 100km range to an Electric Vehicle in just 15 minutes.


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    a nice batch of DC chargers through out Tipp would be good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Easygo have now installed their third DC charger on the Limerick-Cork corridor at Lidl in Mallow to complement Dano's centra in Mallow and Lidl in Charleville, this time last year we had no DC charging on this corridor which connects our 2nd and 3rd largest cities as ESB were too busy building awkwardly laid out hubs* in random places

    *hub is what ESB call a station that can DC charge 3 cars simultaneously



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Up to 100km in 15 minutes, at an average of 17kWh/100km that would suggest 17kWh in 15 minutes or 68kW(h in 1 hr)... Presumably they are the 75kW units then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    The one at Finglas Gym / Community Centre is. And can load share CCS and CHAdeMO too although it's an uneven split at 50 kW : 25kW as far as I know.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Feels like we're going to get a per county announcement of Eir/EasyGo deployments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    They seem to be following a policy of not owning sites and not paying rent or entering in profit split with businesses.

    They seem to want county council's to offer free parking/charging spaces in prime areas probably free of charge, and the uptake and support seems to vary by county. It's a strange business model to me, I would have thought key national routes would be the way to go to make profit, even if they are prevented from traditional motorway or services larger sites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Maybe their thinking is that a 75kW unit in the centre of a town or in a supermarket car park where people spend 20-40 minutes at at time will be more viable than a motorway services location where people tend to spend as little time as possible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    + needing a wide revenue stream asap to leverage more investment, rather than sinking cash into less sites or a hub with a long lead time for grid connection.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    The thing that's obvious from the general Easygo approach to getting chargers out....

    Is that they seem to be looking at places not actually on the main motorway as an actual opportunity....

    A gap in the market that others may not cover...

    You won't see Ionity coming into Mallow or Charleville and we have a situation where on the main Cork to Limerick road - Easygo are the only operator of DC chargers on the route.

    Also if you need to do shopping and also charge the car then you aren't going to go the motorway to Ionity when you can charge with easygo at the shopping place (ie Lidl).

    BTW I'm sceptical of how well Easygo will do the job ultimately but I can see (i think) the gap in the market they are going for....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I was charging to 100% at an easygo DC charger today and this popped up from the app on my phone. Handy update. I had selected the stop at 100% as the default is stop at 80% on most of the easygo 50kW chargers. I was gone long before the one hour overstay applied I assume it might give an app warning like esb do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    EasyGo continues to march onwards with their 200 Fast charger roll out…


    Having launched this programme in Carlow in May 2022, EasyGo have contracts to add Tritium chargers at 70 locations in counties Offaly, Mayo, Cavan, Waterford, Kilkenny, Tipperary & Monaghan in the next phase of this project. These will be rolled out over the next six months. EasyGo are actively engaged with other local authorities to identify 130 additional locations across Ireland for new fast DC Tritium chargers, and this program will be delivered at zero cost to county councils.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Good news.

    If nothing else its going to show people that charger infrastructure can be rolled out successfully and more people will see EV chargers in their area or on their travels around the country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Visibility will be huge, and these EasyGo units certainly stand out, so when they start popping up in fairly remote rural areas.... and then when they are seen being used in said areas.... it will be a huge endorsement for EV's in those areas (despite the fact that locals to that area would never have to use them unless they couldn't get a home charger)!!



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