Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Correct.

Grain markets are in free fall which signals that the markets reckon that there’ll be no shortages of grains. They’re usually right.

What gets on my wick are the farmers getting on the bandwagon calling for increased production and the easing of regulations. Ridiculous. Funny that it’s just 3 countries across Europe that are making these calls…Ireland, Holland and Belgium, and what have they in common?

The ginger haired gobsheen from Cork was on Twitter saying that further regulations would only increase food prices in Ireland…as if farmers are price makers! You’d think he’d take his 50cpl+ and stfu?

Things will return to normality soon enough. But while this war is ongoing the World Food Program needs some substantial funding, what we do NOT need is a relaxing of regulations for farmers to produce even more food.

the council were letting human waste into courtmacsherry bay since the dawn of time . was piped straight in from courtmacsherry

and Timoleague villages because they had no scheme. I saw human shite in it . yet farmers were blamed. non farmers have a lot to do with this.

I would accept that some intensely highly stocked platforms firing out urea have leeching problems

Don't know what cork guy you're talking about. There should be such a thing as fair and sensible regulations instead of picking on one and ignoring the other. Land availability is the big problem in Ireland. Guess it make more sense the way things are going to have less cows and more milk once it could be done efficiently.

I see the Dutch are still protesting but I'd say they're only wasting their time.

As for going back to normal. It could be very painful dropping 20 cent off the milk price here.

I thoroughly agree. FAIR and sensible regulations. Both sides pointing the finger of blame is not a solution. Meanwhile things continue to ‘go the wrong way’…

I’m on record here saying that fighting methane emissions is a hill I’d be prepared to die on, and if the authorities insist on reducing cow numbers, fair and sensible compensation should be offered.

Using whatever excuse de jour to continue polluting is not on.

The Dutch are now using the argument that if abortion is allowed…

The more you do. The more is expected.

We are right up there at the top in Europe for water quality. And it's through local investigation and remedial work that issues are solved.

We're seeing dates changed on slurry storage. We're seeing feckin everything stricter. You take even dung heaps on field. In the UK they can leave it to compost for years. Here it has to be gone before the cut off date every year.

It's publicity for taisce. Even the promo photo for the online link. Was of a Ukrainian dairy cow standing in the water. All for non farming eejits in this country.

More can and is being done. Knowledge is scant getting to farmers imo though.

But it's a sledgehammer approach just because they like to show the power of those weilding that sledgehammer.

Well they can't say that RTE irish media piece above was negative reporting.

Who'd be a farmer.

Ah he’s only using ye olde strawman argument Birdnuts, and well he knows it.

It’s beyond my comprehension why there’s such a stubborn, almost singleminded, pushback against the inevitable when doing the right thing is by far the easiest thing to do.

I do wonder,is it because they’ve borrowed heavily on the assumption that they can mine the environment as long as they like? Pile on the cows and it’ll be grand kinda thing? I dunno.

More like the farm has to make an income and can’t rely on a family business to pay for land or farm for a hobby

It's eutrophication of estuaries that's going to cause is to drop to 220kg in 2024. Overloading of nitrates on the milking platform being a big contributor. Nobody willing to grasp that nettle so we all have to suffer.

Tillage is the cause in this area but no one is willing to call it out. Ploughing right up to the rivers, no cover crops. Hedges cut to the bone the minute the combine leaves

The area you post of is the worst in the country for nitrates.

Now teagasc are to be fair holding workshops on trying to encourage min till, riparian zones. But it's p1ssing in the wind.

I've a sneaky feeling there's agronomists that have the ear of those that shout loudest in the press and social media, the an taisce boys and gals. And they've them convinced to look at the cows and away from themselves. Meanwhile they're still ploughing away, near zero riparian zones, 1st of December or even before the plough is out to get that winter till.

It drives me nuts. And there's others want to push more farmers that way. There's hills lately should of never been ploughed. And ditches cut out of season at night. Getting away with murder. And it's still the worst in the country.

There's no equity.