Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

Tony Soprano was the first major TV antihero. Even at his worst in season 6, he is still more likeable than Walter White ever was. Unlike WW he has charm and charisma. Despite it being clear he's an awful person, you can find yourself forgetting that and rooting for him at times which shows what a brilliant character he is. I never felt that way at all with WW. He doesn't really have any redeeming qualities.

I've seen this theory proposed and I'm not sure I really buy it. People just really want Kim to survive the series and are reaching in my opinion

Kim being killed is the obvious conclusion. She's not in BB, and her path to redemption disappeared when she did the U turn to fix the broken arm pictures to shaft Howard.

So if she doesn't die, she has to go down the Vacuum store route.

When Jimmy/Saul is running to the store, to dissappear, he asked his secretary to set up a call on a specific date and time. So maybe Kim disappeared with Vacuum guy (Ed Galbraith).

Dead Kim would shatter Saul. Doubt he could be who he is in BB. Disappeared Kim feeds cynicism which is consistent with his character in BB.

Her survival via disappearing is dependent on them not going together...

Mike and Gus 'de-aged' - 'don't' - Gus's explanation, to Mike. 

I just read

" Better Call Saul screened the 8th episode of its final season at the Tribeca Film Festival this past weekend and we were there!"

So expect plenty of spoilers in various videos etc, I will be giving all them a miss until it airs.

Putting aside that it's been critically well received on all platforms, critical and public, it also continues to have high viewership. If anything more people are watching it, according to AMC there was a 65% increase in the amount of people watching on AMC Plus compared to the first episode.

They were never trying to redeem Howard, just a way of reminding us that this guy we were all rooting for Kim and Jimmy to take down and ruin is a normal guy with his own life and problems who frankly hasn't done anything to deserve the level of what they're doing to him.

Thought his scene demanding to know why was really excellent, really captures how utterly absurdly groundless the whole affair is, despite Kim and Jimmys justifications....although Jimmy's only motivation is Kim.

Howard's been one of the best characters in the show, and I was gutted to see that end for him but I thought it was solid TV and a very transformative moment for Kim and Jimmy, neither of which even actually hate Howard to begin with, more just what he represents.

I think BCS is just as good as Breaking Bad in its own way, I remember when it was announced I wasn't thrilled and I didn't think they'd pull it off in any sort of meaningful way but they have, and spectacularly.

They show this in BCS. It makes no sense to be Kim as Kim knows Francesca already. He wouldn't need to say "tell 'em Jimmy sent you". It is likely someone in BCS, I'd guess Cliff Main or Rich Schweikart [but both might be too old].

Having this discussion in work today and both of came to this conclusion. The evolution of Walter White in BB is just simply amazing... But BCS has that same character development with multiple characters throughout it's 6 seasons. It shows the evolution of the writing... I thought the wire was the best thing I'd ever seen, then BB came along and I said this is IT... But BCS has set a new bar... It's stunning.

It was bloody slow to get here... But by Jesus, it was worth it. It's a prequel, it shouldn't be this good.

I loved the wire. Like the experience of watching... But ya never got that payoff...because it's so real in any season, but that was ok. This and BB feels more complete while still remaining realistic.

It was a very smart move from Gilligan BCS is basically Breaking Bad at different angle.

The viewer is tricked into thinking the focus is James McGill. Who is breaking bad. But in reality it is Kim Wexler who has made the major transformation. And her is the main driver of not only Jimmy but the series itself. I believe this was planned and happened organically. As the writers were going to kill Kim off at one stage earlier in the series?

Dunno about that. Jimmy's path is still the focus for me. The subtle camera shots of his reactions to where Kim is going is fascinating, is it repulsion or awe? Will it be what ultimately separates them and how does Jimmy get to be the Saul we know in BB

I can’t really properly compare the two because I was late to BB.

And caught up watching 1/2/3 episodes a week then started watching as new around 2013.

So it might have skewed my opinion. But I feel BCS is more of slow burner than BB. More in-depth character stuff and a few fun/fluff episodes bits mixed in.

BB was extremely Walter centric IMO occasional Skyler/Hank/Marie focus. But BCS seems to have more character depth to me anyway. Painted the full picture of Mike, Hector, bit more on Gus. While at the same time giving Jimmy’s full background. The different pacing has allowed more character development in BCS?

As for which is the best between BCS and BB. I honestly can’t pick two sides of the same coin which compliment each other.

Rather than compare both shows just be glad we have them and they're both great.

Might have recast Jeff the taxi driver Jeff