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  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭marathon2022


    Increased inflation reduces spending. Lower spending reduces prices, lower prices reduces inflation. Lower inflation increases spending. Increased spending causes increased inflation.

    Scared bunny's spout rubbish at every level of the cycle.

    Rinse and repeat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Not good news to hear, alot of the high prices in dublin are only sustained by the high salaries in the tech sector, if they start to go and the foreign tech workers emmigrate thing dublin city may be in trouble



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    What’s more worrying, this is only the start.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 куриный шарик


    The EU and US have backed themselves into a corner, a crash and hyperinflation is coming and politicians will hang from street lights for what they have done to the public, they know this and have come up with a plan to save their necks, blame Russia.

    The are pushing hard for a war, as once war breaks out they can blame that for the economic calamity, they hope to win/stalemate/peace deal and when its over blame the collapse on the war effort, "it needed to be done, we would have had a fine economy only for war with Russia", unfortunately it look like they are going to get their war, the people of Europe and USA will suffer greatly as the arse falls out of the economy , and the public mostly will believe it was the fault of Russia and the same politicians who caused it all will get away with it.

    Its going to get worse all the way up to the war starts and then it will get some more worse




  • Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭bb12




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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭brickster69



    The 12 month gas futures price keeps heading north, would of been a great idea to enter long term contracts while it was low. That is where the increases are coming from, having to buy the daily rate as well as the dollar strength.


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Are Germany continuing to decommission their nuclear plants?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭brickster69


    So it starts, Europe's largest gas supplier in bailout talks with the government. All that corporate debt held by the banks is in the billions, never mind the derivatives of them.


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Russia looks to of taken over the Sakhalin-2 pipeline to Japan. LNG looks set to go much higher as Japan could enter the market for replacement gas.



    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Yep the green agenda must be adhered to. Even if half the population of Europe freeze to death this winter.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I’m absolutely flabbergasted by some of the tripe from europe of late- they are actually intending to double down on all this green fantasy. They live on a parallel universe in Brussels.

    In agriculture for example in the midst of the most serious food supply crisis in almost a century, they intend to go head long into a proposed 50% cut in pesticide use (nationally binding) without first alternatives copper fastened- bearing in mind Europe also bans the likes of GMO in plant breeding. This might make sense if you’re a wealthy green voter living in south Dublin suburban utopia, less so if you’re one of the tens of millions in the Middle East that depend on imported grain from Europe to survive day to day



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    It's hard to have any common ground when you quaff champagne get a limo in and out of Brussels. Goto your fancy hotel all on expenses. Closest they get to the plebs is seeing some person in a blanket sleeping rough saying "we should do something about that" But hey at least they are carbon Neutral.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    They don't need a war effort to beat Russia, it's only a fraction of the sizes of the US economy,the difference in military budgets is incredible. Even before accounting for so much of the Russian army budget being stolen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭bb12


    look at what they've said to the dutch farmers...reduce your emissions or else just give up farming...the dutch farmers brought the country to a standstill this week but the eu is pressing on



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Not much coverage on Friday's announcement regarding new commodities to be paid for in roubles from now on.


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Germany records it's first trade deficit since 1991. Manufacturing weakness and rising energy costs due to the sanctions they have imposed on themselves the 2 main reasons.


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    To be fair killing off half the population would go a long way to saving the planet. So maybe they're not so dumb after all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Next 6 or 9 months is going to be very interesting. I didn't get a wage increase this year even though inflation was high as I decided to not rock the boat and take the hit and hope inflation would drop but next year I'll be looking for an inflation matching rise, as long as the jobs market remains as it does now.

    The US is expected to now be in an official recession. The announcement on GDP for Q1 and Q2 will be made next month I think.

    Leo and McGrath are saying high inflation can go on for a few years. Given how often politicians are wrong, it tells me a bust is coming.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭Dante


    That also means the US have a lot more to lose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Look at the gleeful faces of these two. They reach into our pockets to give us a bit of money back and they think they're the biz.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    Dole going up by €20, that is the sum total of that article.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Hardly a surprise to anyone - postponed holidays for covid, pent up demand and covid-savings mean this would be a bumper year for spending. Holidays booked in advance would hardly go unused, but with biting economic pressures I wouldnt expect it to keep up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    I wouldn't be too optimistic of getting anything. Seems to be the dole and pensions . Cant see much for anyone else.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Never suggested it was a surprise.

    The economy is forecast for continuous growth as are Ryanair passenger numbers.

    The low cost airline expects to fly 15% more passengers this summer than in the same season of 2019, and will carry a record 165 million passengers in the year to March 2023.

    Good news, or at least you'd think it would be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭thinkabouit


    Just something I noticed over the weekend around my county.

    Visited a few different towns around, I never seen the roads as quite on a Saturday or Sunday. Has anybody else noticed it?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,482 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Conversely, I haven’t seen a weekend as busy in Dublin since before the pandemic. A lot of Kilkenny, Clare, Galway & Limerick fans around for the hurling admittedly. Queues to get into pubs all over the city. It was jammers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Most people are very rational. The majority are. So, over time I do expect people to rationalise what is thrown at them, and adjust accordingly. People will cut down on driving unless strictly necessary, and in the face of criminally induced inflation eroding their spending power, many people will cut back to essentials and refuse to pay the higher prices, naturally dampening demand and seeking value for money alternatives to eating out/the pub/holidays etc.

    Eventually people will simply refuse to queue for hours at disorganised airports like Heathrow, Dublin, Manchester. What is an unusual situation at the minute, is that after 2 years of lockdowns and travel restrictions, and a terrible summer, people are dying to get away right now for July and August. Once they get this out of their system and some of the lockdown savings are gone, many people will vote with their feet and their wallets. They are more sensible then the governments and experts that have landed them in this avoidable mess.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭enricoh


    The financial watchdog tells the government that the corporation tax Klondike could dry up easily and should be saved for a rainy day. If it's to be spent it's to be on one off infrastructure projects and definitely not on day to day spending.

    The government files the report in the bin n decides to increase spending 5-10% this year. We all know it's gonna be 10!

    Sure we only owe 250 billion n the shinners will be in in a couple of years anyway - they can sort it all out says Leo n Meehall!

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