The Orville

_Kaiser_ · 26-05-2017 11:45am #1

Saw this referenced in the latest Discovery rumor video.. as a Galaxy Quest fan this looks fun, and more in keeping with the look of "proper" Trek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXzN39rF5eU

Kurn · 26-05-2017 3:02pm

Yes, from the creator of Family Guy, also staring him. Could be good!

Goodshape · 26-05-2017 3:43pm

A "Galaxy Quest series" would be great but I'm not sure I could be bothered with Seth MacFarlane's take on the idea.

Willing to be proven wrong but that trailer just looks like what I'd expect from him. Doesn't look good.

TheIrishGrover · 26-05-2017 3:47pm

I love Galaxy Quest. Thought it was sharp and clever and wasn't mean spirited about Trek fans/ trek scenarios which would have been a much easier path . I even like Seth McFarlane (well, Family Guy). But this just didn't do it for me. Of course I'll give it a go but...........

degrassinoel · 26-05-2017 3:56pm

Trek trivia, he's a massive trek fan, and starred in an episode of Enterprise as a crewman in engineering!

AMKC · 26-05-2017 4:14pm

I am not a Seth Mcfarlene fan but do think this looks like it could be funny. It does look very Star Trek like. I don,t think the ship looks very like a ship of the federation do. Its certainly different. I could see it belonging to an alien race but not the Federation. I will give this a go think its cool that there is a Sci-Fi comedy coming out and a new Star Trek series too.

ScumLord · 26-05-2017 4:32pm

Hopefully the rest of the film is funnier than that trailer. I haven't been all that impressed with Seths' live action stuff, he's humor works well in animation but not so much in real life IMO.

emo72 · 26-05-2017 4:35pm

It looks awful. If this passes as funny I'm past it.

pixelburp · 26-05-2017 5:32pm

The idea looks good and certainly seems like there's some money being thrown at it, but I just can't get past the presence of McFarlane and the nature of his character & humour. I can't stand his schtick of being the only one 'in' on the gag, pointing out how weird everything is - it just doesn't translate when the actual world seems fairly 'normal'.

Evade · 26-05-2017 6:18pm

I'll almost certainly watch it but I think it would be better if Seth MacFarlane would at least consider casting someone else as the lead in the live action stuff he does.

_Kaiser_ · 27-05-2017 8:55am

Goodshape wrote: »

A "Galaxy Quest series" would be great but I'm not sure I could be bothered with Seth MacFarlane's take on the idea.

Willing to be proven wrong but that trailer just looks like what I'd expect from him. Doesn't look good.

A Galaxy Quest series was apparently a thing, but trying to get the cast schedules to line up was an issue, and then with the death of Alan Rickman

it stalled from what I read.

Sad Professor · 27-05-2017 9:47am

Not really getting the Galaxy Quest vibes from this. It just looks like a MacFarlane show that happens to be set in space. Galaxy Quest was more of an homage than a parody of Star Trek and the sci-fi genre. The humour all came from its reverse fish-out-of-water premise, which is what also allowed it to have real emotional stakes, something that straight-up parodies generally don't have.

Inviere · 27-05-2017 10:18am

Turned off half way through, jesus....

The_Valeyard · 27-05-2017 3:19pm

i like it. I'm going to watch it. Reminds me of TNG.

AMKC · 27-05-2017 4:59pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Hopefully the rest of the film is funnier than that trailer. I haven't been all that impressed with Seths' live action stuff, he's humor works well in animation but not so much in real life IMO.

Its not a film its a series.

DivingDuck · 27-05-2017 5:15pm

Can't wait for this. Trailer had me in stitches— Looks like it'll be right up my alley. Anybody know if it'll be on any channels over here?

Kurn · 29-05-2017 2:01pm

DivingDuck wrote: »

Can't wait for this. Trailer had me in stitches— Looks like it'll be right up my alley. Anybody know if it'll be on any channels over here?

Probably FOX

ScumLord · 29-05-2017 3:43pm

Is this a film or a series??

Kurn · 29-05-2017 3:44pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Is this a film or a series??

A series

ScumLord · 30-05-2017 12:49am

I thought it was a film, as a series it might work out better.

Greyjoy · 30-05-2017 11:30am

Interesting comment from MacFarlane where he said that while the trailer played up the comedic elements of the show the series itself will lean closer to Star Trek than Futurama.. Seth Macfarlane the Orville will be more star trek than futurama/ That's reassuring and I like the fact that the show will have a sense of optimism.

_Kaiser_ · 30-05-2017 11:51am

Greyjoy wrote: »

Interesting comment from MacFarlane where he said that while the trailer played up the comedic elements of the show the series itself will lean closer to Star Trek than Futurama.. Seth Macfarlane the Orville will be more star trek than futurama/ That's reassuring and I like the fact that the show will have a sense of optimism.

That sounds a lot more "involved" than the trailer would suggest. Kudos for using real models too.

degrassinoel · 30-05-2017 12:56pm

Cassidy Yates and Bashir's Da from DS9 in the trailer, wonder if McFarlane has a host of other secondary trek characters appearing too?

Evade · 30-05-2017 12:59pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

Cassidy Yates and Bashir's Da from DS9 in the trailer, wonder if McFarlane has a host of other secondary trek characters appearing too?

He works with Patrick Stewart pretty regularly I wonder what the chances are of him showing up?

degrassinoel · 30-05-2017 4:39pm

possible yeah, and michael dorn too

Goodshape · 30-05-2017 5:01pm

And the Frakes behind the camera too, according to that article.

The 'humour' in the trailer really wasn't my cup of tea (MacFarlane being "the only one 'in' on the gag, pointing out how weird everything is" is a perfect description for his brand of comedy) but the article makes things sound a bit better.

It would be a tad annoying if this turns out to be a more enjoyable / more "Trek" show than Discovery. Pretty cool that we have two chances for good Trek in the near future though!

_Kaiser_ · 23-07-2017 3:12pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKECRnZe2U

New trailer with some new footage yesterday.. Still looks promising

marcbrophy · 05-09-2017 10:39pm

Couple of DS9 faces in that trailer!
Kassidy Yates, the obvious one. But also, Julian Bashir's father Richard.

degrassinoel · 06-09-2017 10:16am

degrassinoel wrote: »

Cassidy Yates and Bashir's Da from DS9 in the trailer, wonder if McFarlane has a host of other secondary trek characters appearing too?

marcbrophy wrote: »

Couple of DS9 faces in that trailer!
Kassidy Yates, the obvious one. But also, Julian Bashir's father Richard.

jaysis, only 6 posts back and ye didnt see it?

marcbrophy · 06-09-2017 10:39am

degrassinoel wrote: »

jaysis, only 6 posts back and ye didnt see it?

Nope, didn't see it at all!

Sorry about that

Goodshape · 06-09-2017 2:05pm

Early reviews of the first few episodes starting to come in.

Variety: "When the dust settles, “The Orville” may emerge as the most inexplicable show of the new season. It certainly never makes a convincing case for its existence. The first impression — that it exists so that creator and star Seth MacFarlane can do elaborate “Star Trek” cosplay — is only reinforced over the course of the tepid trio of episodes that kick off the show."

TVLine: "Seth MacFarlane's Somber Sci-Fi Dud Crashes and Burns. Consider this a red alert to TV fans everywhere: Are you expecting Seth MacFarlane’s new Fox series The Orville to be a fun Star Trek parody packed with wall-to-wall jokes? Two words of advice: Abandon ship."

SF Chronicle: "There’s something there or, more to the point, bits and pieces of something there, but it needs work. Boy, does it need work."

Oh well! One down, one to go. Roll on Discovery!

Kiith · 06-09-2017 2:26pm

Yeah, i didn't really have high expectations for this. I'd say it would have done better as a movie like Galaxy Quest then a series.

AMKC · 06-09-2017 9:55pm

When does this air on Fox here? Critics are always going to say things like that. Everyone is different. Id say give it a go sure its just a bit of lighthearted fun. Don,t take it too seriously and just enjoy it for what it is.

degrassinoel · 07-09-2017 7:28am

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-orville

averaging 25 on metacritic atm

TheIrishGrover · 07-09-2017 2:29pm

Was ANYONE really expecting anything else from those trailers?

Evade · 07-09-2017 2:38pm

I'll probably give it a few episodes.

pixelburp · 07-09-2017 2:43pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Was ANYONE really expecting anything else from those trailers?

I think its more ostensibly 'classic' Trek styling earned a lot of leeway from people, particularly from those not on board the aesthetics of Discovery; felt like it was used as part of a backlash against the actual new Star Trek show. In fact I recall suggestions that the presence of Trek alumni such as Jonathan Frakes was effectively giving The Orville their 'blessing'

:rolleyes:

I don't revel in the failure of new shows, but I can't say the negative feedback thus far is entirely surprising either. I'll give it a couple of episodes too, but I'm not expecting miracles; Seth McFarlane's ego is clearly going to be the biggest anchor around the shows neck & will be hard to get past it.

TheIrishGrover · 07-09-2017 3:53pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I think its more ostensibly 'classic' Trek styling earned a lot of leeway from people, particularly from those not on board the aesthetics of Discovery; felt like it was used as part of a backlash against the actual new Star Trek show. In fact I recall suggestions that the presence of Trek alumni such as Jonathan Frakes was effectively giving The Orville their 'blessing' :rolleyes:

I don't revel in the failure of new shows, but I can't say the negative feedback thus far is entirely surprising either. I'll give it a couple of episodes too, but I'm not expecting miracles; Seth McFarlane's ego is clearly going to be the biggest anchor around the shows neck & will be hard to get past it.

Good points. I'm not a McFarlane hater. I think Family Guy and even Ted had it's moments. I heard he was involved and thought "OK, uh.... Interesting Is suppose. He's certainly always been a fan so I'll give it a look" But the trailers really REALLY didn't click with me. As a matter of fact I found them quite annoying. The tone looked all over the place and the characters about as stock as you could get. I knew originally that it was planned as a pretty straight hour long drama with some McFarlane humour. When I saw the trailer it looked like it was a straight up comedy which made me go "Meh" THEN it came out that it still is drama mainly. VERY schizophrenic.

My biggest complaint is that this has all but put the final nail in the proposed Galaxy Quest series.

Optimus Prime · 07-09-2017 5:41pm

I'll give it a go myself and see what it's like. I've loved shows critics hated and hated shows they liked. So I don't bother reading reviews anymore.

I never realised he was in Star Trek enterprise until I did a run through of it a couple of months back.

Evade · 07-09-2017 11:46pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

My biggest complaint is that this has all but put the final nail in the proposed Galaxy Quest series.

I think Alan Rickman's death saw to that.

TheIrishGrover · 08-09-2017 8:18am

Evade wrote: »

I think Alan Rickman's death saw to that.

Yeah, I remember interviews around the time saying so. The only thing about that was: Were they really going to try to get the original cast back for a TV series? Whatever about Tim Allen and a couple of others, surely Alan Rickman and Sigourney Weaver would be too big for regular TV (Netflix's Defenders aside).
I had previously assumed that they would have recast for a TV budget.

Evade · 08-09-2017 8:53am

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Yeah, I remember interviews around the time saying so. The only thing about that was: Were they really going to try to get the original cast back for a TV series? Whatever about Tim Allen and a couple of others, surely Alan Rickman and Sigourney Weaver would be too big for regular TV (Netflix's Defenders aside).
I had previously assumed that they would have recast for a TV budget.

My understanding of it is it was the cast who were trying to get a series or mini series going.

I don't think anyone is too big for TV any more.

Goodshape · 08-09-2017 10:08am

The Galaxy Quest series is in production – https://www.theverge.com/2015/8/27/9214989/amazon-galaxy-quest-series-development

Evade · 08-09-2017 10:38am

Goodshape wrote: »

The Galaxy Quest series is in production – https://www.theverge.com/2015/8/27/9214989/amazon-galaxy-quest-series-development

That article is from about six months before Alan Rickman died.

Goodshape · 08-09-2017 1:03pm

Evade wrote: »

That article is from about six months before Alan Rickman died.

Oops! I saw "August" and assumed it was 2017.

This is what I was looking for:

"'Galaxy Quest' Amazon TV series back on track with a new writer" – August 18 2017
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/18/galaxy-quest-amazon-tv-series-back-on/

"‘Galaxy Quest’ TV Series Back On Launchpad At Amazon With Paul Scheer Writing" – August 17 2017
http://deadline.com/2017/08/galaxy-quest-tv-series-amazon-paul-scheer-1202151268/

"Galaxy Quest TV Series is Moving Forward With New Writer" – August 17 2017
http://screenrant.com/galaxy-quest-tv-show-writers/

Evade · 08-09-2017 1:16pm

Goodshape wrote: »

Oops! I saw "August" and assumed it was 2017.

This is what I was looking for:

"'Galaxy Quest' Amazon TV series back on track with a new writer" – August 18 2017
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/18/galaxy-quest-amazon-tv-series-back-on/

"‘Galaxy Quest’ TV Series Back On Launchpad At Amazon With Paul Scheer Writing" – August 17 2017
http://deadline.com/2017/08/galaxy-quest-tv-series-amazon-paul-scheer-1202151268/

"Galaxy Quest TV Series is Moving Forward With New Writer" – August 17 2017
http://screenrant.com/galaxy-quest-tv-show-writers/

I hope they do get the original cast back because they were a huge part of what made it good but it won't be the same without Alan Rickman's character and I doubt they'd recast only his role. I wonder how they'd work in Daryl Mitchell being paralysed too.

_Kaiser_ · 11-09-2017 1:23pm

Watching this now and the visuals and ESPECIALLY the music are very Star Trek. The first approach to the ship has definite strings of the same scene from TMP

Evade · 11-09-2017 7:05pm

Is there any word on when it will be released over here?

Goodshape · 11-09-2017 8:01pm

Just watched the first episode there. I enjoyed it a lot!

Definite TNG vibes but feels like they've got enough of their own thing going on too. Not too derivative.

And the humour works well enough! There's less of it than I'd feared; everything just feels light and easy going.

It's not bowl-you-over "golden age of television" great, but those earlier reviews certainly feel too harsh. I look forward to seeing more.

Evade wrote: »

Is there any word on when it will be released over here?

If this is accurate it doesn't have UK broadcaster yet, and I guess that covers Ireland too – https://www.geektown.co.uk/tvairdates/the-orville/

Slydice · 11-09-2017 10:18pm

Seeing Kasidy Yates was cool!

Slydice · 11-09-2017 10:18pm

Kasidy Yates needs to be Captain.

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