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Supermarket Price Increases [Groceries]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Irish_wolf


    You have almost certainly paid Tesco more over the years by being "loyal" than you have ever made back in discounts. This is how they sucker people in to the physical shop and once you're in they will have targeted deals just for you, ready to pounce on your innate human desire to impulse buy those great deals. They know when (which days sell more impulses) and where (how high on the shelf/ products located after certain staples) to place these products and how to arrange them for maximum influence. They know this because they track you with your clubcard, they know your age profile, how near you live etc. and they know when you are most susceptible. Now they also track individual credit/debit card purchases and how loyal that card is but it will not have the same effectiveness as a clubcard.

    During the pandemic the big supermarkets found it incredibly difficult to do the same level of targeted impulse selling online as they did in store, to the tune of an overall ~€600m difference in spending habits by customers who moved online in the UK. I would argue this new clubcard exclusive scheme is probably designed to capture that impulse market in the online shoppers. In fact it will probably be even more nefarious because it is much easier to send targeted ads online than in store.

    "Research developed by Aragoncillo and Orús (2018) reveal that 40.0% of consumers spend more money than planned in physical stores compared to 25.0% in online purchases."

    Now if you are a strict shopper who brings a list and only buys what's on the list then maybe you've gotten your money's worth over the years. But it's much more likely that you've lost those savings back to the company because you have succumb to their incredibly effective marketing tricks, borne out of the analysis of shopper's spending habits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    @Irish_wolf that's interesting analysis. It would explain the initial Clubcard discounts that Tesco introduced in the pandemic. There was a small list of items with much bigger than normal discounts applied. It was a small enough list they could promote it as a headline discount. As a click collect shopper I always reviewed that list.

    Now though, the Clubcard discounts are just the usual Tesco discounts. There's so many of them, you won't scan them on the chance of picking up a big bargain. Maybe down the line they will have targeted marketing. But I've seen no signs of, so they seem to have jumped the gun.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭brodsy


    Back to price increases...

    Rudd's black pudding gone from €2.19 to €2.39

    Goods bag of fresh salmon portions gone from €10 to €15

    Tesco own brand mouthwash gone from.65c to €1

    Felix cat food goes up weekly with them 😞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shauna677


    My sister lives in the States, she has resorted to making her own cat food as she says it's no longer affordable in the shops 😞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    do you not do a "feel test" 😂 If you know your "feel" you will get 7 or 8 packs in an Aldi Variety 6 Pack. If you are really lucky, you will get 9 😁


    If you look at all the items increasing prices they all involve key ingredients that have gone up in price around the world or are commodities which are subject to an international market (just like oil, coal, soy beans etc) . Butter is also a commodity and currently trades at €725 per 100kg, so unless this starts dropping, butter will be close to €5.

    Last year it was €400/100kg and in 2020 it was €350 av.

    https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/food-farming-fisheries/farming/documents/eu-dairy-commodity-prices_en.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,019 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Tesco Finest Irish Angus Road Beef, went from €2.99 or buy 2 for €5, now priced at €3.15.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    16 cent, price of fuel etc that’s not too bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I've pretty much decided I won't shop in Tesco anymore. Their prices are bordering on ridiculous now.

    I went in at the weekend specifically for a cheap pizza around 3 euro and they had none, only the smallish goodfellas sized ones. The rest, bigger ones were all around 5.50. Lidl for example have ones for around 2.70

    They won't be funding their 10% staff payrise out of my pocket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Villa05


    My local petrol station is 12% cheaper than tesco, dunnes on bread (800g) wholemeal. Amazing as petrol station owner is not shy about upping his prices, maybe he's too busy changing the prices on petrol/diesel boards



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭con747


    It depends on your Tesco, you can buy pizza's from €1 in my local store https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/299425011 and no shortage of pizza's in the 2-4 euro range. Prices are going crazy though on a lot of products.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 geronimo123


    I normally buy Tesco's 750ml own brand Smoothie, noticed the price jumped from €1.50 to €2.19 a couple of weeks back. Everything seems to be going up, I make sure to bring my glasses with me shopping these days!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    H.W. Nevill's Part Baked Baguette 2 Pack was 59c a few months ago, now 79c. Still 59c in Aldi, and just gone to 69c in Lidl



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Milk just gone up in Tesco

    T 1l Milk 75c 85c 95c €1.05

    T 2l Milk €1.49 €1.69 €1.89 €2.09

    T 3l Milk now €2.90



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tesco family brown sliced bread up by 15% this week, from 85c to €1.00

    I know it doesn't sound a lot when you're talking 15 cent - but when you put "per" in front of the "cent" and it's on so many items across the whole shop, it really begins to add up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭RayCon




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You are absolutely correct! 😂 🍞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Bread will go up even more in the coming weeks and months. Given how much of the world's grain comes from Ukraine there are going to be issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Just looked back through a couple of email confirmations for the online shopping and the 3 litres of low fat milk was €2.29 on May 4. It went up to €2.59 sometime after that and now its €2.90.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,586 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    These were 29 cent a few months back

    Then went to 39 cent

    Now 59 cent

    The same are made for Lidl . Not sure about Aldi

    Various flavours

    Surprise . They are gone to 59 cent in Lidl!

    Price match ...= price fixing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Have you checked the EC code on those yoghurts, maybe the reason they are the same price is that the same supplier makes them?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Examiner doing a selection




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And Tesco, unlike Dunnes and Supervalu don't have any spend and save schemes at all!

    So on a bigger shop, the difference would jump up.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    all of these comparison surveys are ridiculous. Who goes in and just buys the few items these surveys do? But suits the media narrative of bad news sells papers.

    Prices barely moved for the past 15 years. Many grocery prices actually dropped in price. But sure the media would never point that out. Compare those prices to 2008 and see what the comparison is - most will be cheaper than then.

    Maybe people will also think twice about over buying and then throwing so much out and maybe people will also start to realise that a best before date is not a use by date.

    And there is some good news (you'll never read this in the press) wheat prices have fallen as there's been a bumper crop in the USA, further falls are expected as a shipping corridor should open soon from Odesa. Fertiliser prices have fallen dramatically in recent weeks as there's a glut of supply. Building material prices have fallen too. And then there's the fact that there has never been a consumer slow down or recession in history that did not involve oil and gas prices dropping and I'd be fairly confident that oil prices will start falling soon as demand is starting to fall.


    So terribly sorry about ruining people's day with some positivity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    As with pretty much everything else in life - you get what you pay for.

    Are the ingredients and nutritional value of the cheaper products comparable to the more expensive name brands?

    If not then its pointless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Did you see the list? I don't see how your point applies to the vast majority of the items on the list. D

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Pick one.

    White bread 79 cent.

    What are the ingredients, preservatives etc vs a 2.50 loaf

    Every single item can be compared.

    "Why eat brocoli with your dinner when you can eat crisps because they are cheaper"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    never saw as much crap and misinformation in a post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Pick one?

    The dairy products probably all come from the same creameries.

    Do you buy a branded whole chicken? Beef mince? Eggs?

    Or potatoes, carrots?

    Go ahead, give us a comparison of the chicken, bread, milk and potatoes between the supermarkets.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Thats the point. Why is the bread so much cheaper. 60% cheaper. The ingredients can't be the same


    The chicken- what food was it raised on, hormone injected, the size of the product etc.


    Comparing prices is pointless unless the ingredients and nutritional value is also compared.

    It's like saying a fiat and a ferrari are the same thing because they are both cars.

    I just don't think it's the full picture thats all



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Unfortunately for many families, especially those on lower incomes, they could never afford to spend €2.50 on one loaf of bread.

    So buying the best quality store own brand is what they do, to make their euros go further.

    The only comparison that matters here, is what these basic items cost them this week, as opposed to what they paid for the same item last week, or last year.

    Then as has already been mentioned, there is a lot of "shrinkflation" going on, on top of price increases.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    SO you have no actual information about the differences between the supermarkets?

    You have absolutely zero idea if the differ in significant respects.

    'Large chicken' is a standardised weight. All the fresh chickens sold in the listed supermarkets are from Ireland, so all produced to same standards.

    The dairy products come from the same creameries.

    Is a 2kg bag of potatoes going to weigh less in LIDL? Or more in Tesco? Comparing their price is pointless? Really?

    Nonsense.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    I don't understand what that has to do with anything.

    I'm talking about the comparison. I could go fill my trolley with garbage food and pat myself on the back for saving a few quid. But I'm only hurting myself in the long run.

    So for the third time. If food comparisons are to be made the comparison should compare the products ie price, ingredients, nutritional value etc

    The full picture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    That's what I am asking. The examiner for example is only showing the price. Its lazy journalism. Helps nobody and achieves nothing.

    They should print a proper comparison of 10 staple items and let's see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    That's a pretty big ask... what would that even entail to assess the 'quality' of a chicken?

    And how reliable\consistent would it be? You could test Tesco's chickens \ potatoes month on month and find variability for natural reasons.

    So I would argue of course it achieves something, it notifies people of the price differentials in staples.

    Could the products vary in quality. Yes.

    Do we have any grounds for thinking there is a consistent difference in quality say for chickens produced in Ireland to standard, of a standard size across supermarkets? Nope.

    So in the absence of any information in that regard, price is the reasonable basis to assess them and is the basis on which most people assess such staple items.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Why choose chicken instead it bread, milk etc that have the ingredients amd nutritional information written on the back!

    It's that easy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Bread, pasta, biscuits are about the only ones it is going to be that easy for. Which is why I said it doesn't apply to most of the items listed.

    For milk and butter and cheddar cheese you're not going to find any listed differences, they are all produced to the same standard in the same creameries. There will be natural variability in them.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    On that list the difference in nutritional value and or ingredients would be easily made between

    Cheese

    Milk

    Butter

    Pasta

    Bread

    And biscuits.

    It's written on the back. I would be very interested to see the difference in bread.

    Do you have any to post the label?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Look at the back of the label of any unbranded dairy sold in supermarkets in Ireland and tell me if you notice any significant difference between them.

    I'll save you the time. You won't.

    It is all produced to the same standard in the same creameries.

    I've even included branded Kerrygold.

    The only differences in display for rounding:


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Let me put it simply then.

    Buying the "best" quality brands you want is fine when you have an unlimited budget.

    But buying cheaper or supermarket own brands is not buying "garbage" food. If someone has a family to feed, and a limited budget to do it with, they are going to go with the best quality they can afford. There is nothing wrong with that.

    So they buy the supermarket's own brand bread for €1 a sliced pan instead of one for €2.50. If they've themselves plus a couple of kids to make breakfast and lunches for every day they probably go through one of these a day. So €7 a week as opposed to €17.50.

    Milk is another example. A litre of supermarket own brand milk at €1.09 rather than a litre of Premier Dairies milk at €1.39.

    A box of six large eggs at €1.19, or €1.89 for "free range". Likewise, a 1.5kg chicken for €4 or the 1.5kg "free range" chicken for 50% more at €6?

    The examples are endless.

    For these familys its not about reducing quality or sacrificing nutrition to be stingy just to save a few quid. Its about making their budget go as far as possible.

    To me, bread is bread, milk is milk, eggs are eggs, and a chicken is a chicken. It's not "garbage"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It's not even comparing branded with own brand \ organic or free range with barn.

    From the list the items compared appear to be unbranded standard offerings. I don't see how you can therefore make a case that some of the own brand \ staples are garbage nutritionally versus others.

    Likewise proposition that standard Irish chickens or milk or butter or cheese or staples like potatoes or carrots are 'garbage' nutritionally is a big claim, and big claims require a foundation. There's simply nothing behind it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Give it a rest ffs and take your arguments to PM



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,065 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Tesco is not alone, I think most people understand inflation and its affects but what is going on in supermarkets generally is seriously taking the Pee.

    I live alone and essentially shop for the same items weekly in Tesco but mainly Aldi. Obviously some variations also.

    I kept receipts over the past month just out of curiosity.

    It's shocking what is going on.

    Just at a basic level, on the essentials, I've literally seen increases on a weekly basis, some subtle others just outrageous.

    I've seen increases from as little as €0.10 cents up €1.50, indeed the average increase and on more than one occasion on specific items as been on average €0.40 cents and no sign of it stopping.

    I understand increasing transport costs, inflation etc but something is not right in my simple estimations. Supermarkets seem to be experiencing almost daily increases in inflationary costs whilst the rest of us are experiencing, monthly inflationary costs. Aldi in particular taking the absolute pee.

    I would normally be reluctant to use the term gouging in the context of supermarkets but frankly I've absolutely no hesitation in saying, this is exactly what's going on.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Excuse you.

    The quality of the product is just as important as the price. These comparison lists don't show a full picture at all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shauna677


    I agree wholeheartedly with you, they increasing their prices just for the sake of it.

    Also I dont like Tesco's two price system, one price for their valu club customers and another one for the rest.

    I was in there yesterday and notice their pantene shampoo selling at 4.99 but if you have a valuclub card you get it for 2.50. Surely they still making a profit selling it at 2.50, the whole thing doesn't smell right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,065 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I'm genuinely trying to be objective but honestly I'm seeing what's going on with my own eyes, weekly and its disgraceful. I'm fortunate in only shopping for myself but my god, those shopping for families etc are being gouged wholesale.

    I agree also with the two tier pricing structure at Tesco and whilst understand the Club card concept (I've got one now) the price differences are extraordinary, sometimes half the price. It makes me wonder if tesco can charge so little for club card members, surely they can spread the discounts around a little more 😉

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    tesco are a disgrace absolutely flaaying us on their prices -whats the bigger picture though?

    is it that companies know people have the money and will spend it after 2 years of a lockdown -is that why everythings gone up second hand cars, buying a dog, getting a haircut petrol etc

    irish people have no back bone they will accept everything



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Cool, sounds like you either know the difference already or you’ve got a pet project on your hands, let us know how you get on - the butter info has already been started for you, the rest shouldn’t take you too long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Yes absolutely and this back's up the other poster


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/food-drink-news/tesco-lidl-aldi-brand-secrets-26913918



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