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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    You’d imagine with so much prevalence of Omicron around the vaccines wouldn’t be much of a priority . Nearly everyone I know has the virus at the moment including an 80 year old man who brushed it off like water off a ducks back. He said he had worse flu’s.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭dominatinMC




  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    I believe the most likely source of Covid was it being a bio weapon brought to Wuhan by foreign, probabky American, participants at the 2019 World Military Games.

    I believe the reason for this was to


    .put in motion a chain of events that would remove Donald Trump from office. In 2019 the chances of the Democrats winning in 2020 were slim to none. An added upside would be to give the people of Britain a bloody nose for standing up for freedom re Brexit.

    • normalise systems of all but mandatory vaccination
    • A great reset of our relationship with the car, cimmuting, interpersonal relationships
    • A case study in how whole populations are led to mania, division and groupthink

    At a local level every national government, although not informed in advance of the plan, had their own motivations. Of the Irish government, I would be confident at least one individual in the cabinet, maybe a second, both of them FG members, knew what was coming well in advance, due to their connections to the Bilderberg Group and the WEF. Two men on record as their loyalty to Ireland and being Irish extending about as far as rugby matches at Landsdowne. A pair of dyed in the wool pan globalists, cookie cutters of Macron, Tredeau, Merkel, Rutte, Jacinda Ardern and every other soulless arsehole elected in the last 5 odd years.

    My guess, the plan was formulated at some point in the summer of 2019. Test amounts of early Covid variants were possibly even released in places like Barcelona and Milan, as evidenced by wastewater analysis from this period.

    Mehole, not a chance that absolute gobdaw was allowed know the plan, just how if 9/11 really was an inside job George W was the last person they were telling. Taoiseach Dougal probably still thinks it was all real to this day.

    The primary Irish government motivation was to

    • artificially inflate house prices, which by late 2019/ early 2020 had started to flatline at what were reasonably affordable rates even in Dublin
    • to break Irish society's centuries long affiliation with the pub. The intention being to destroy your "Saturday afternoon, 13 pints and premier league" venue in the villages and the suburban housing estates, places frequented by people who wouldn't vote FG FF in a fit. With the hope that by the end of the plandemic all that would remain were craft bars and other city centre tourist type venues.
    • To test how far a population brought to the brink of insanity by Europe's longest and most baffling illogical could be pushed. ESRI psychologists having a field day with the data.
    • To test stupidity. To see how many gobdaws could believe in 9 euro meals, masks when going to the jacks, thinking masks protect etc etc.
    • To punish the population for not having delivered a clear cut victory to neither FF or FG

    I frankly would find it difficult to have any respect for any non elderly person that does not believe in most of the above. Stupidity and ignorance falls outside of the term "everyone is entitled to their own opinion".



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,373 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Personally, I would consider the current workplace approach to covid as a restriction on a company's ability to function and deliver their services. And in turn a restriction on those in need of such services. And it appears to be on the verge of getting even worse with talks about "long covid" being officially recognised as a workplace injury.



  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    Hope to Christ Ron DeSantis gets the presidency in 2024. The man is a maverick and a realist, I wouldn't put it past him setting up a team that would look into prosecuting those who brought us to this level of insanity.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.




  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    He's one of the good guys.

    I liked Trump but he went a bit mad towards the end.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    How do the UK compare to us with all this workplace disruption

    If I want to see what living with COVID is really like I'd look to what the Tories are doing



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    It's already/still advisory on public transport and busy indoor areas - they wouldn't be putting legislation back on the books if the intent wasn't to legally mandate it at some point.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    They tried that last time.. get vaccinated as the way out of restrictions. Indeed, I think it's why the vast majority went along

    It didn't happen though. Restrictions were dragged on regardless.

    Fool me once...



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Dr Barry on RTE now claiming another variant has emerged in India and picking up pace and should be with us by September 🙄🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I didn't last time either for the most part.

    I went with one of the plastic face shields. Still ridiculous, but less personally uncomfortable and frustrating than a mask

    If they try to bring this back for what is still a mild dose of the sniffles for the majority in the midst of darkening evenings and spiralling heating bills and fuel costs, on top of all the other issues we face, I can see a lot of unrest.

    It doesn't happen often (last time being the Irish Water protests), but there seems to be a lot of simmering anger and frustration out there at the moment.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    There won't be unrest over masks

    There could be a lot of non compliance

    I know I won't be bothering my ****



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I didn't actually say that, that's your projected version of it, but some people are really struggling to let it go. I'm genuinely sorry you continue to feel that way. COVID is over bar some slightly obvious exceptions and it has been for over four months. In due course there will be a review of how we went about things. None of these claims about next winter are real at all BTW but they are clearly real for you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    It feels like COVID is being prolonged by the work outages and hospital stats and media sensationalism

    That's my take on it all. I feel that it's not over until we decide to end it



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,858 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Of course they matter, these are some of the most significant events in Irish history.

    Your commentary around this is bizarre, you asked people to "purge their memories" in a previous post.

    Of course you could ask people not to look back with especial bitterness but nobody is forgetting anything, why would they. The public panic was itself a response to media and political hype.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Nah not purging them, again a reworking of my words, just putting them in their place as part of of our life story. I don't see much to remember about the last two years except that there was probably far too much caution at times, but driven by events at that time. Ultimately we moved out of it far faster than many other countries. That we will all learn something from, otherwise life stretches ahead of us, not behind us.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The fiat financial system, as we know it, has come to an end. It was actually on it's knees by 2009 or so, but they kept injecting it with more and more printing. The longer such stimulation continued, the bigger the eventual crash would be. Its completely done now, which the powers that be have recognised. America is in record debt. They will collapse into the new CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) system, due approx 2024-25, according to the ECB and US Fed.

    Covid and the war arrived in good time to provide a smokescreen. Politicians will continue to blame these events for what was already an inevitable (and necessary) collapse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Most supermarkets have security at the doors, the small shop probably won't care too much though



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Agree 100%.....Even more so due to it's accuracy 🙂


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    There are pleanty of Branch Covidians now re-emerging from the wings.

    That well known,totally neutral and uninvolved "expert" Dr Cilian de Gascun of the hugely well funded (post covid) National Virus Reference Laboratory has leapt onto the stage to brief RTE as to what we're gonna hafta do if we want to stay alive this winter...

    One chink of light is the final quote from Dr Gerald Barry of U.C.D where he has chosen a rather unusual turn of phrase regarding more vaccinations...

    "I think considering what's happening and considering the likelihood of further waves, I think vaccination should be an option for everyone really," he said.

    No thanks,Doc.... 😎


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Ah yes,But....that review will NOT be featuring any contribution from Dr Holohan or Mr Reid,two of the most important Covid personages in Ireland.

    It will,I suspect feature a tramload of Civil Servants,as junior as can be found,to be metaphorically garotted by a succession of Junior & Senior Counsel,none of whom will earn a penny from the "review".

    The whiff of decay from this entire production is very strong indeed !! 👺


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Maybe we could get him to do a speech in Dublin.?

    RDS in the RDS !!! 😎

    Bound to have a familial connection in the North Inner City surely ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    So you believe that this thing just happened to originate in the fish market. Just by chance.

    You believe that the lockdowns, the societal reset, the hyperinflation, none of this could have been predicted or avoided and it certainly wasn't deliberate.


    Jesus. Don't tell anyone that in public whatever you do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    We are in the middle of summer and we have daily threats in the news to bring back mask mandates.

    More than likely we will see some sort of lite lockdown this winter (probably involving nightclub closures, moronic rules around live gigs and half capacity outdoor sport events), making us an international laughing stock.

    We will be getting this because certain nerds in government enjoy it too much.

    Don't forget- in April 2020 Simon Harris said, casual as you like, he couldn't see a return of pubs and nightlife until a vaccine was widely available.

    At the time, most experts had a widespread vaccine roll out pegged to between 3 and 5 years away. Many speculated we might never have one.

    TLDR- Simon Harris thought 3 plus years of no Irish nightlife was something that shouldn't come as a great shock to anybody, just live with it.


    Now, that's all well and good if you like staying in each and every weekend playing Warcraft and watching Doctor Who or whatever Simon probably does, but that he thought this was a viable option for the rest of us speaks volumes about what planet these people are living on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    So after over two and a half years throughout which I was actually in work it finally got me today. Didn’t do too badly despite being labeled “irresponsible” and a “granny killer” and god knows what else by some of the zealots on here. Extremely mild symptoms so far just a very mild cough every 10 minutes or so. #prayforme



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,373 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    What is this scutter? Why do you insist on fantasising about "lite lockdowns"? These same arguements were proposed by the forever restrictions merchants earlier this year, who were roundly shot down when the government removed all restrictions. But yet the worst case scenarios continue on here.

    I'm not a defender of the government, but it's tiresome reading the same shite. And, yes, unsubscribing from the thread is an option but, in between the bullshit, there are some good points.



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