Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Our most recent senior all Ireland win was in football. The hurlers are are in the middle of the longest senior all Ireland famine, in the history of Cork hurling. Cork football has never recovered from appointing Brian Cuthbert over John Cleary back in 2013. Cuthbert got rid of nearly all of the senior players in one go.

I’m just an ordinary supporter with no insight what’s going on at county board level, but something clearly isn’t working. I was in Croke Park in 2010 for the football final. Also at the 2005 hurling final. Can’t believe it’s so long ago. Youngsters now 12-16 who have never seen a (male) victory parade coming from the station in to town.

A few things. I’d never criticise any man or woman who dons a Cork jersey. They try their best and give a ferocious amount of time to the cause. I also don’t buy the narrative that we need someone from outside to manage the hurlers or footballers. We surely have talent within the county. John Kiely, Brian Cody, Jim Gavin, Jack O’Connor, Liam Sheedy: all successful with their native counties. Micky Harte. Even mercenaries like Davy Fitz only won an all Ireland with his own county (feck him anyway). I actually can’t think of any all Ireland winning team who were successful with an outside coach/manager.

So, surely someone here knows what’s wrong, cause it needs to be called out and fast. Some great posts seem to suggest certain things, but we are the biggest county in Ireland and we should be doing better.

Was at the game yesterday, enjoyable first half, just about stuck with them, even with kicking some bad wides, mainly from poor shot choices. Never got going in the second half, Dublin got a rake of frees which looked lie some tired tackling. We've a solid core that are capable of hanging with the big boys for 35-55 mns, but fitness and lelve of subs seems to be a big difference.

The kicking game we're going with is lovely to look at, and is looks great when it ends in scores, too many of yesterday ended up with poor shot choices, shots that players were off balanced and were never likely to hit the target. A better team resists that shot choice, resets and tries to work it into a better opportunity. That's the next step on this team's journey.

Big decision on the mangement front too, doesn't sound like Cuthbert will be back unfortunately

I wish Keith Ricken all the best, and hopefully he makes a full recovery from whatever has forced him to step aside. We stayed up in division two and playing Dublin in Croke Park, will stand to this teams development. We have a long way to go before we win an all Ireland, but we did make some small positive steps towards that this year. I think so far John Cleary and co have done a decent enough job. I see them building towards something, unlike the hurlers who are on the road to nowhere with Kieran Kingston and his band of merry men.

Difference is Kerry has the players to win an All Ireland, Cork unfortunately has not

I think we potentially do, Cork did win an underage all Ireland double last year. Sure it may have been another hammering to Limerick in the semi final, but it's all about getting the most out of your resources. I feel with more tactically astute management, then Cork would have beaten what was on the day, a fairly mediocre enough Galway team.

Tony Considine hits the bullseye again.

https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-40904609.html

Funny to see him say the players shouldn't have a say in choosing the manager. Wasn't it one of the fundamentals of the very strongly supported strikers years ago that the players had such a say? If it was a good idea then why not now?

We do have a base to work with there. How well they make the transition to senior level is another story obviously.

Fair decision by Kingston to step down

Was completely wrong of Cork board to offer him another year - likely showed they had no plans themselves for a successor

He did his best but it wasn't good enough. Needed a change fast. Hopefully the next man in looks after the interests of Cork hurling and not someone who is a yes man to the county board.

Too true. As long as Cody is around DOG will skulk in the background.

A great Cork hurling man is Kieran Kingston. We had an enjoyable Munster final win in 2017 under him, and last years run to the all Ireland final was very memorable. Of course he was a decent player for Cork as well. Thank you for your effort and service to Cork hurling Kieran.

This year was a missed opportunity. Limerick aren't motoring as well as in previous years, so perhaps we could have rattled their cage in the semi final. Hopefully the board will pick the right man for the job now. As long as it's not Davy Fitz, then that's the main thing really!

Pat Ryan senior hurling manager

https://gaacork.ie/?p=15419&preview=true