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Island's edge opinions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Had a can of this a couple of weeks back. Wasn't as god awful as I was expecting it to be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Nice enough texture but just thought it tasted of very little.

    The logical conclusion of stout gradually being turned into something that people that don't like stout would like to drink.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The only thing they should suggest would attract new Stout drinkers is that horrible glass.

    Taste wise, its more like a Beamish than Guinness(more flavours).

    The thing about it is that if I ever wanted to have a draught pint, I'd have to ask for a Guinness glass and then what's the point of that hassle when I get a Guinness.

    I'd grab a few cans as much as I do with Beamish/Murphy's... No better or worse.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    The glass didn't bother me at all. I don't see the big issue with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭Thundercats Ho


    Islands Edge - "Isn't as God awful as you'd expect it to be"

    Hmm, I think they should go with that in their next ad campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Many stout drinkers are obsessed with having the "right" glass, whatever that means to them!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,927 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I quite like the Island's Edge glass. It's the Senator, or a clone thereof. O'Hara's uses it too for their pale ale and lagers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Isn't the glass roughly the same as the one Guinness would have used in the distant past? Which was changed to a different shape, so that it wouldn't smash if it was knocked over, and no other reason?

    Post edited by Effects on


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would you like a glass of wine in a pint glass?. (Again maybe you don't care but can see my point a bit more).

    Maybe you don't care what kind of glass you get it in, but I do and I'm hardly the only person(no more than women wanting a gin from one of those big goblet type glasses).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭Thundercats Ho


    I actually prefer those type of glasses if i'm having a few cans of stout at home.

    I think they're called an emperor glass.

    I'd go

    1. Emperor

    2. Nonic

    3. Tulip



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,503 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I have the O'Hara's version. Where I have brewery glass, I use it, but a stemless wine glass is my "go to" for stouts - bring up the temp a little more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I love Teku glasses, and generally I'm drinking 440ml cans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    I'm gumming for some after the last four I had. Better than the other black stuff!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 bingo76


    Just tried this tonight from a can. Had to check the can was in date, as getting a really horrid bitter after taste off this. Allegedly the tea additive to this is supposed to make this less bitter - finding the opposite is true.

    Luckily bought some Guinness Surger cans at the same time, so will skip the remaining Islands Edge cans (until I'm desperate). May try again if I see it on draught, but not impressed at all for a first time taster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I hate to admit this. But I don't find it as bad as I thought I would. I'm halfway through the four pack someone gave me at Christmas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,722 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Small dredge. Tried this last night at a gig. Swill. drank 1/3 of it and binned it.


    IF they just marketed Beamish and Murphys a bit more then we wouldn't have this abomination. My assumption is that they needed to have cider and stout to offer punters at events so brought out 'Orchard Thieves and Island's edge and both are awful. But also they might be for people who don't actually like either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭Dante


    It tastes like Guiness without the creamy goodness, ie shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,722 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    I thought it tasted like a can you find the morning you're packing up at a festival. That weird tinny, feint taste of the grass lingering on it.


    IF they really wanted to make an impact on the market. A gluten free stout for those people who have had to give up guiness. I know quite a few who would be top of the queue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Thought it was very light tasting myself. Did enjoy the intial taste but it went quite bkand quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,730 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    9 White Deer Stag Saor Stout's been on the market for quite some time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Can't understand why they don't market Murphys, its a lovely stout, bit more flavor than Guinness and very creamy. Beamish is my favourite but I couldn't see it appealing to the masses, its fairly bitter and considerably cheaper than Guinness. Islands Edge is for people who don't drink stout so they have created this sub-market of swill with the awful tasteless lager and cider from Rockshore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,722 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Couldn't remember it's name. Had it in Fallon & bynre years ago alright and hadn't seen it many other places



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭techman1


    Why did they get rid of Guinness Extra Cold in Ireland? I don't agree with the Guinness purists it's simply too warm and unrefreshing in many pubs now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    What temperature would you want it at?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Quite simply because people didn't like it and found it too cold. Pubs didn't want regular Guinness and extra cold taps, so extra cold got the chop.

    It was way too cold!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭techman1


    Well then just have "Guinness Cold" rather than Extra cold, the fact is that in many pubs it is served too warm ,ok for Winter but not for summer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,503 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Large Bottle, off the shelf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭andrew1977


    Bought 8 cans of it, drank it , nothing spectacular, nothing disgusting either, would i buy it again , No.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,503 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    btw Had Islands Edge at a St Anne's Park gig. Was better than the lager option, but wasn't enough to be arsed queuing for a third.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    The temperature is set by Diageo techs usually, isn't it?

    Pick a different drink if it's not cold enough for you. Or ask them to put some ice in it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    set by the pub if they want techs is a board word for some of them



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    Jaysus lad, no need to be so angry about how I like my stout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭beardo81


    Only had tried Islands Edge cans before yesterday and had been very unimpressed with them.

    Pub I went to yesterday served me a poor 1st pint of Guinness so I said I'd try 'the Edge'

    5 pints later and I was still enjoying it. Nice creamy head, pleasant roasted aftertaste and almost as full bodied as Guinness. Very very good pints and a nice change from Guinness. Not sure how popular it is countrywide but I'll definitely have more pub pints of it in the future (when I get out that is!!)

    So moral of the story is try it on tap lads, you might have a totally different experience to the home cans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭MakersMark


    Looks like Guinness, tastes like Coors light.

    Not a fan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I don't remember seeing it on tap anywhere. In that time since it's arrival, Guinness revamped their tap and added a non-alcoholic Guinness tap. Only ever saw it in the off licence and was never tempted to buy it.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    I had 2 pints of it at the Olympia last year when The Darkness were in town. Perfectly drinkable but fairly boring. Couldn't believe they didn't have Guinness available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    didnt they use murphys for that for a while? i remember hearing a couple of english lads at one of the rwc 2015 games ordering pints of 'murphy's guinness'



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Murphys is what is on tap in any Heineken venues up north e.g. The Odyssey Arena, Brandywell Stadium.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,722 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Well they've been quietly removing it from places and putting Murphy's back in. Olympia a few weeks ago and bord gais. Seemingly any venue that has a deal with Heineken's group. 3arena should switch too you'd think


    Beamish is a lovely pint. Murphy's is decent. Islands edge is and always was dreadful



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I've never been so happy to see a pint fail. All they had to do was push Beamish and Murphys further. I've never seen Murphys in Dublin



  • Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭fmul9798


    It does strike as some marketing guff that convinced some up-and-coming MBA, who in turn didn’t bother to get back to basics and actually do some research. They had two stouts in their portfolio, and they dumped money in to another. The marketing geniuses knew that the real reason those didn’t increase share was because they just didn’t know what the cool kids social media crew did. Perhaps their next will be a Heineken competitor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    It's like Diageo. They still have Harp on keg, but it must be 20 years since they pushed it.

    But instead of targeting the Under 40's market with a product that already has some presence / penetration, they come up with Hophouse 13 and Rockshore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,730 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Diageo have been pushing Harp since last summer. Huge increase in the number of pubs with it in Dublin.

    I suspect they realised there were Islands Edges lines coming out, as well as trying to recover the remaining Budweiser lines since it went to C&C. It has died a death in Dublin; most lines seem to have become Rockshore/Rockshore Light or now Harp. I'd drink all three in preference to Budweiser but it did have fans.

    When HH13 came out (nearly a decade ago), Harp was more commonly remembered as a crap product; that had died out. Its not even that crap. Probably has more Sally O'Brien memories than assumptions about quality now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    The brewing process is much the same for all Diageo lagers, so Harp is not brewed by any sort of "crap" process, it's just a legacy perception that it cuts the throat off you.

    I've not seen any advertising of Harp yet anywhere, but it seems to be growing anyway.

    Again, shows how "smart" all these marketing dudes are developing products while ignoring what's in front of them.

    Budweiser was huge in Ireland once. Falling away to nothing now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,730 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    C&C don't have the might to push to keep Budweiser on taps, plus I suspect all but its biggest fans have grown tired of its, erm, unique taste.

    Changing Irish producer/distributor doesn't always work out well. Carlsberg is probably unique in bucking that - moved from Bachelors Beans (bottling import) -> Beamish (brewing) -> Guinness (brewing) and got bigger each time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    I'm sure I heard Budweiser is even brewed in the UK now for the Irish market.

    Carlsberg has at least some international profile, champions league etc.

    Budweiser Irish Derby anyone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Would have loved to be in the room when they pitched Islands Edge. Love to know what they actually thought they could achieve market wise.



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