No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

Are Deery engineering (carlow) still operating.

One of the lads I work with on the day job is from Clare - he might pull a sickie on Monday....😏

thank God, couldn't stomach the build up to another bloody handshake. on the Offaly game, a sickening lesson in how cruel sport can be but hopefully will make them stronger.

A proud Offaly man here. It’s devastating to lose a game like that. We now know exactly how Louth people must have felt in 2010 after the Leinster final.

Credit to the Tipperary team, they never gave up and it paid off for them in the end. Superb hurling by both teams as well. It was a match that had everything, some serious quality breaks, runs, scores, saves, blocks, everything you could ask for in a hurling match.

Such a pity it was all decided by a number of completely baffling incorrect refereeing decisions but such is sport and hopefully it’ll make that young Offaly team stronger and stand to them in the future.

I agree with all of that and I’d also have to question our fitness. We had a lot of lads going down with cramps in the last 5 - 10 mins and there was no one from the Tipperary side with cramps. We had a similar issue in the Leinster final as well so that’s definitely something to be questioned.

But all that aside, when the ref gives 3 dodgy frees in a row to the other team in injury time, with the last one judged by everyone at the match, including the commentators, analysts and tipp supporters, as being a free out for Offaly for the trip on Niall Furlong coming out of defence with the ball, and instead its given as a free in for Tipp, it’s hard to swallow. The trip on Furlong happened about 20 seconds before the end of the 4 minutes of injury time. The correct decision there for a free out and it was game over by the time the free would have been taken with Offaly 2 point winners

Also we were in for a certain goal when Damian Corbett threw his hurl at Cathal Robinsons head a few minutes earlier. Corbett got a red card but the goal chance was gone and we only got a point from the free.

I’d take nothing from the Tipp lads for this, they done everything right, they kept the pressure on, they knew they had the ref on their side so they used that advantage well and they also had better fitness. They done everything right and fair play to them, they got their reward. But there’s no doubting the mistakes by the referee, especially the last and most critical one. Even the atmosphere on the pitch after was very subdued, as was also stated by the commentators after the match. The Tipp supporters never properly celebrated as they knew it wasn’t the correct decision.

Anyways such is life and such is sport and I also agree with what you said about Offaly being a team to be proud of, they certainly are and I hope this sets a drive in them to go on and win an All Ireland in the future, be that at minor, U20 or senior and not let this get them down.

There lies the proof that disowning a brother and keeping the money instead is the better option, shame that's the mentality in people.

I really didnt think the "trip" was a foul at all. As soon as 14 felt the tiniest of contact he went to the ground Neymaresque. No place for that in the game. Was hoping Offaly would win it but have to give Tipp credit for the comeback when Offaly thought it was over. A great lesson that nothing is finished until the refs whistle.

Duignan is making a very positive impact in Offaly. We could do with someone like him in Kildare!!

The brother in the pub might of won it and threw everyone off the scent lol

I can keep a secret, it's the people I tell it to that can't.

How much of the regular machinery work (agitating, slurry spreading, dung spreading & silage) would you do yourself on the farm? Not really counting spreading fert or rolling or that sort of stuff.

Is it really only for the FT farmers to be at? Got some slurry to put out and just not getting time at the minute, so passed it off to a contractor. In and away in a day.

Only do agitating, 80% of fert and drawing bales and feeding here. Contractors do everything else. First half of the year time is a big issue so thats when most is done by a contractor.

New rules making it more difficult tho. A handy tank could do for following cows or the odd paddock taken out before but now its tank plus dribble bar. Could be waiting then depending on contractors work load. Cost of machinery is an issue depending on where one is in terms of farm development etc

Do we have any fencing contractors on here?

You could try this guy. We got a set of s/h tyres off him earlier this year and he was grand to deal with.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractortyres-for-sale/row-crops-for-ford-7610-7740-ts-tl-new-holland/31575707