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England International Cricket Summer 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    From 55/6 to 264/6

    sublime skilfull and accurate batting by both batsmen. Good entertainment.

    England only 65 runs behind … intriguing stuff…. You’d have to imagine that they’ll at least match the New Zealand total from here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Mental to score 264 off just 49 overs. That would be a half decent one day score.

    Terrific entertainment as pretty much every ball was an event. It's test cricket but not as we know it. Similar to Trent Bridge where after tea, Bairstow and Overton set about the New Zealand bowlers and they had no answers with the ball or in the field. What looked like a day that New Zealand were set to dominate the test match turns into a game where both sides are pretty much even at the end of it all.

    Jaime Overton's knock is probably almost as more important for him going forward than his bowling as modern teams love to have as much batting down the order as they can get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    First session is massive, psychologically as well as in terms of the scoreboard…

    England get to lunch still batting they will or should have a lead. Can’t see either of these two retreating into their shells so runs will be flowing freely if they stick around and it’s a lead of 90-110 perhaps by lunch.

    New Zealand bowlers look frazzled and out of ideas, maybe a nights kip and a team talk at breakfast can lift their spirits and energy levels.

    be nice to see Overton get a tonne. Not often a genuine tail ender reach that milestone, he’ll have deserved it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Well England got a slender lead in the end, 31 I think…. Considering they were 55/6 they’ll be delighted. Not too delighted about 7 of their 11 batsmen only scoring single digit scores…that’s a worry.

    feel sorry for Overton he deserved a hundred there can be little doubt about that. Brave, fearless and entertaining innings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Southee gets Pope in the first over after the rain delay this morning.

    England still major favourites to win the test match.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,932 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Alas Jonny B has lost his chance of getting the fastest century in this innings. Still 2nd fastest fifty for England in Test cricket is not bad to add to his previous 2 innings.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    Zak Crawley is unrelated to John Crawley. So while it's valid to question why he keeps getting picked, it's not down to connections within the cricket establishment.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,932 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Openers have been an issue for some time, and Crawley has been the only one that has shown anything remotely resembling consistency, until Alex Lees came on the scene. There remains a fundamental question as to who else there is to open up

    Having said that opener may be the only place to squeeze Harry Brook in the team, and let's face it we cannot have enough Yorkies in the team at present!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I always thought those two Crawleys were related, or presumed it 🚨 oops

    in fairness to Zak he’s only just turned 24, but he’s played lots of cricket without coming close to being consistent.

    23 matches you’d want to be averaging more than 27.

    but he has talent.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Eoin Morgan standing down then*, what a One Day Captain he's been for England, he'll be a tremendous coach if he ends up going that way.



    *Retiring from international cricket.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Morgan only just gone 35.. in great shape rarely injured... suppose he might as well go out on top... a brilliant entertainer..super career... probably deserved another shot at test cricket.. much lesser players were enabled chance after chance but hey..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Morgan's body has been failing him though over the past couple of years and he hasn't been able to complete some of the series due various ailments and then you take in the lack of runs in a very successful side and it was the right time to step aside. Buttler is in a good moment in his career and it's the right time for him too to become a leader.

    Will go down as the one of the game's greatest captains for his confidence in his convictions and also the complete trust of the team he was leading. He has laid the groundwork for all of English cricket for which the Test team has belatedly followed suit with the Stokes/McCullum partnership. Who even were the England coaches in the short form games for the last 7 years? We never seen them as Morgan was pretty much coach and captain. To change around a moribund and boring team in 2015 to winning the world cup four years later was an incredible achievement. Was before his time with the flicks and reverse sweeps which is now common place and also his six hitting was hugely underrated. He has 202 in ODI's compared to Stokes's 88 for example.

    He was unlucky in his test career as you some very good players around when he broke in that an average of 30 was just not good enough whereas for instance now you have Crawley, Lees and Pope who are all hovering below or around that number. Unfortunately he developed a dip in his stance at that time and had an aversion to short bowling and the English test team just moved on without him, unfairly in my view.

    Will always be a sore point for some here that he left Ireland to go play for England but that was the natural path back then and he needed to play for England to realise his full potential and in turn they needed him and they probably could never thank him enough for what he has done. Would love to see him come back some day and help the game in this country in some shape or form.

    Anyway, he should still be around the game for another couple of years in T20 cricket or the Hunderd, before I'd imagine he will have a career in coaching as he will be a wanted man by all and sundry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yes I’d say for years he will have his phone ringing with offers of coaching… from all four corners of the globe… by the estimation of cricket experts.. due to the longevity of his career, it’s believed he is worth 3-4 million im reading.

    plus coaching opportunities to come he’s done seriously well out of cricket and of course for cricket too. A star of franchise cricket consistently for over a decade … that estimation is certainly justified you’d imagine..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    England have confirmed Jos Buttler as their new white ball captain as expected.

    They also face India tomorrow in that 5th test match from last year which was postponed after an Indian staff member got Covid and the team opted to pull out. A reminder that India were leading 2-1 coming into the final test match.

    England named their side today: 1 Alex Lees, 2 Zak Crawley, 3 Ollie Pope, 4 Joe Root, 5 Jonny Bairstow, 6 Ben Stokes (capt.), 7 Sam Billings, 8 Matthew Potts, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 Jack Leach, 11 James Anderson

    So Zak Crawley holds on to his place somehow, and they have also opted to bring Billings in for Foakes who has Covid. They surely were tempted to give the gloves to Bairstow and bring Harry Brook into the side who has had an incredible year at Yorkshire.

    Jaime Overton is left out after Anderson regained his fitness. That leaves England with once again a long tail and let's not forget that they were 55-6 when Overton joined Bairstow and only for their partnership would have faced a monumental uphill task to get a result.

    India (probable): 1 Shubman Gill, 2 Cheteshwar Pujara/Mayank Agarwal, 3 Hanuma Vihari, 4 Virat Kohli, 5 Shreyas Iyer, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 Shardul Thakur/ R Ashwin, 9 Mohammed Shami, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 Jasprit Bumrah (capt.)

    India have announced Bumrah as test captain for this match with Rohit Sharma testing positive for Covid. They are also without Rahul who will be out for a couple of months so will have a new opening partnership. Last year, Ashwin didn't play any of the four test matches but may play tomorrow as the pitches have been better for spinners this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Great start from England.

    India 69/3 after 23 overs and their batsmen looking vulnerable… running between the wickets not great, inside edges narrowly misssing the stumps and plenty to keep the slips interested.

    run rate is only 3 so feck all runs and plenty of chances for England.. as I type a cracker from Anderson is centimetres from Pant’s edge. How it misses.. sheet.

    as I type the inside edge takes care of Kohli, bowled by Potts who has been dangerous… Kohli looking more like a tail ender, brutal effort, he’ll be disappointed with that,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Broad unlucky not to get his first one…looked like a fair catch but because not given out on field the third umpire decision is that not enough evidence to overturn…

    not sure about that, looked like the fielder had a finger underneath the ball before the ball hits the turf so that in my view is a fair catch… Broad less then impressed and has some words for Dar, animated words as the decision is issued..

    110/5.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Stokes using the high risk strategy of bowling Leach to Pant. So far it's not working with Pant counter attacking and India now moving past 150.

    Crucial part of the game where India could quickly take control of the game despite being 5 wickets down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Edgbaston does facilitate spin bowling but Leach hasn’t exactly made the best of it.


    Leach going for a fraction under 6 an over, no maidens, no pressure and wicketless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Leach conceding 71 runs in 9 overs, no wickets, fućk. If the England management and leadership didn’t have such an obsession or fetish with him he’d be done. Going for a shade under 8 an over.

    from 98/5 to 323/7

    England will be coming off the field heads held fairly low…. India will be ecstatic given their dreadful start with half their side out and not even a hundred runs scored… now they have at least a par score.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    India just turned the tables on England and did to them what they did to New Zealand.

    Once the new ball got soft and Pant got in, they couldn't stop him similar to what Bairstow and Stokes did to Bracewell. That England bowling attack is very samey with Potts, Broad and Anderson all trying to get wickets the same way and no pace whatsoever or variety. Stokes tried to play the enforcer role and bowled quite poorly but did get a wicket towards the end of the day.

    Pant was awesome and when he is in that mood, you just have to hope he makes a silly mistake. Jadeja is also an excellent all-rounder and he will be confident of grabbing his century and getting India into that 400+ range tomorrow morning.

    The positive for England is that the pitch looks quite flat and is a new ball wicket. Once you get past those first 25-30 overs, it's go time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    With England 1-0 down in the series they need a really good session in the morning…

    id say they are hoping beyond hope that they pick up Shami, Siraj and Bumrah for not many runs being added. It’s possible as those dudes are not exactly batting with high averages behind them.

    India have achieved a par total but if they manage to get up to 400 it’s advantage India and with England needing the win to save the series they really can’t let that happen… should be a fascinating first session.

    how do England play it ? Stokes needs to go aggressive from ball one… risk might equal reward…

    how do India play it ? My guess is with Jadeja running out of partners he might play himself in for two overs and then start swinging..

    might be the odd shower in the morning but day set fair from about midday onwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    323/7 to 416 all out. India will be delighted. Tail wagging and some. Got to say the bowling was poor though.

    Then Alex Lees fails again. Bowled by an average looking straight one from Bumrah. High score so far 67. Test average so far from his tests…..24.58. 35.61 he averages in first class which isn’t exactly impressive. Just not good enough. Reminds me of Mark Lathwell… At least Lathwell was jettisoned after a few matches, this absolutely mind numbingly dumb persistent idiocy on behalf of selectors with Lees is baffling…

    first class opener knocking on the door of the international side should be averaging 42 plus…..he’s around 6-7 runs short of that and what is just bizarre is he’s 30 at his next birthday so he isn’t going to improve any.

    Ravi Shastri.. “ bizarre, this morning England lost the plot.. “ he’s an Indian but perplexed that England bowlers can conceded 35 runs in a single over to tail enders who were batting….

    Captaincy poor, selections poor, tactically poor and execution of skills poor.

    Stokes…. You would have to wonder about his pedigree as captain, no slips again when needing wickets ?! Hmmmmm and allowing his bowlers to adopt a tactical system of trying to bounce out a section of the Indian team which backfired spectacularly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Yep, a pretty bad look for an opener to get bowled by a straight one. England's opening woes continue and look no nearer to be sorted. Once they get back out playing, I can't imagine that Crawley will be there too much longer before he joins him back in the dressing room.

    England's bowlers just completely lost the plot this morning with Broad in particular bowling some dreadful stuff. 35 runs off one over against Bumrah with the new ball. The field was spread out with some short pitched bowling, but they had the new ball?!? Brain dead stuff from Stokes and co. Bumrah was only too delighted and took it on.

    Strange bowler is Broad. He can sometimes get on a roll and be incredible but on other occasions like today, you question how the hell does he have 550 wickets?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Broad looks like a bowler who has too many miles on the clock…. He doesn’t run in to bowl with the same gusto as before…way short of pace 37 at his next birthday…has played a savage number of matches… Tests : 155 ODI’s : 121. All in 15 years….Very rarely injured. That’s incredible but sure must be feeling it, looks like he is….



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Crawley goes very quickly as predicted. Out comes the drive again and it's an easy catch in the slips. He just isn't an opening batsmen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms



    There is an interview in the Independent which Stokes where he clams he wants to ‘revolutionise’ the way test cricket is played.

    a bold statement for sure, when all England fans want I’m guessing is results to improve, England to win some tests / series….

    They were hammered in the ashes, whitewashed, beaten at home by the West Indies…

    but their captain… he wants to revolutionise the way the game is played. Bizarre thing to say. If there is to be a revolution Ben better start winning tests, otherwise might not be around to see the ‘revolution’.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    There is a very obvious PR/marketing push from the ECB to call this style of Test cricket a revolution. From day 1 of the first test v NZ Sky were pushing this narrative that this is going to be an era of attacking cricket no matter the situation. They got lucky with it in that NZ played straight into their hands with indecision allowing for unlikely and then rampant wins in Stokes' first series as captain but it's not something that hasn't been done before and still won't mask the obvious deficiencies in that England XI. The quality teams will see it coming and take advantage of daft fields and uncontrolled bowling.

    Sadly though, I completely understand their reasoning for doing it. Test cricket is on the wane and if it loses much more popularity in England then it's curtains, it's been wobbling for a long time (the final Test match of a series v BCCI that was started 12 months ago only being played now is enough evidence of that) and they need to try anything to claw back some ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Still to many , myself included test cricket is the pinnacle of the sport… the ultimate test of skill, ability, tactical nouse.. and entertainment.

    i think the marketing PR behind the shortest format, the fireworks, dancers.. it’s trying to appeal to a wider audience but you’ll be back home in time for last orders, not too heavy an investment time wise or financially.

    nothing on TV a 20/20 swingathon can be a decent watch but it’s less demanding on the multifaceted skill sets of cricketers.


    that’s some heavy rain, slate grey / black skies all around, could be a while before they come back after this break and cleanup. 4pm now…

    unfortunately the forecast for the rest of the test is very mixed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    I 100% agree with you about Test cricket, I just think we're in the minority now. Test cricket doesn't appear to be attracting many fans in the younger age groups and my reading of this new "era" is the ECB are trying to drum up a bit of interest by trying to show it as a bit of a swing for the fences, heart on the sleeve sport when that was never the "point" of the Test to begin with.


    Don't see this one ending in anything other than a draw either, which is a bit of a shame but after the disaster that was the "end" to this series last Summer it's probably fitting it should be a damp squib.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yep, definitely the minority… the wham bam thank you mam nature of life and the sport and here we are.. and of course £$£$£$£§

    restart at 6. Which I think would give us an hours play max.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Forecast has nicely improved and we should get a full days play in, uninterrupted..

    England need I’d guess to put on another 180 runs to stay in this….going to be a riveting first session and days play.

    India odds on favourites though can really only be one result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Bairstow will be livid. Made a savage century, playing the cricket of his life…then a three minute delay in getting a ‘member’ in the crowd, an Indian supporter in the corporate hospitality area to sit down who was standing up taking photos or videos with his tablet or phablet behind the bowlers arm… looking like he knew what he was doing too… grinning and reacting to himself on the big screen..When play resumes Bairstow is caught first ball by Kohli…

    that could have a significant impact on the match and the result….subsequently repeated efforts have to be made by players and umpires to stop people acting the poxbottle.. coming in with drinks, standing up… all behind the bowlers arm while play is in progress… both teams batting innings it’s happening ….

    twats everywhere but …you have wonder what the problem is that staff can’t be monitoring it….



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Decent session this morning from England getting 4 wickets including Pujara and Pant, but India still added over 100 runs and are in complete control with a lead of 361. A few slog hitting from the lower order should push that lead to 400+ and that should be incredibly difficult to chase.

    Despite England's brilliant comebacks in the New Zealand series, this Indian bowling attack appears to be much more complete than the Black Caps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    If England were to chase down this total as it is now.. it’s a record for Edgebaston which is a notoriously difficult place to chase and score runs in the fourth innings. As far as successful fourth innings run chases go.. 283 is the record there.

    Stokes decides not to review the Leach lbw shout and DRS shows the ball crash into leg stump. In fairness watching the replay it looked to be going down, strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Leach has no silly point to a number 10 and 11 batsmen. Inside edge onto pad and guess where the ball pops up to ? Yep. Silly point. Two tail enders, Jesus.

    brain dead captaincy.

    eventually India are bowled out and they have a lead of 379 runs…. India are firm firm favourites.

    If as suspected they can and will blast through Lees, Crawley and Pope…. Game over.

    England need a solid start by the top order.


    solid start it has been, almost undone due to more blatantly shîte umpiring, DRS having to save Crawley,

    Post edited by Strumms on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Fascinating contest at the moment which shows how good test cricket is.

    Brilliant opening partnership between Crawley and Lees as the new ball did nothing and they finally got in and got a score. India then got the ball changed which has been happening far too much this summer in England and that did a little bit more and Bumrah removed Crawley and Pope either side of tea. Lees then went as Root sold him down the river and a collapse looked likely.

    Bairstow and Root have looked fairly untroubled except for a few close calls with Bumrah still the main threat. India seem to be wary of this 'Bazball' thing and have put many men back trying to prevent boundaries, but they are giving Root and Bairstow simple singles which they are happy enough to take. Jadeja was brought on just to dry up an end but that has been pointless in the end.

    30 overs until the new ball and England need just under 150 runs so it's still all to play for. India trying to get the ball changed again which is perhaps now their best chance of something this evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ball change after 61.4 overs. Hmmmm

    England are managing the chase well. Bairstow and Root looking reliably comfortable.

    just 69 more needed. The worry would be the still long tail if a couple of wickets would fall quickly but with 3 down and only 77 needed it would take a seriously substantial collapse from here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Bazball!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Some performance from England. To chase down 378 is remarkable. Started well and got over their sticky patch very well. Bairstow and Root are really at the top of their game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭selwyn froggitt


    That's four exceptional run chases in a row and that 378 was England's biggest run chase ever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Very surprising how easy it was for England this morning. India looked like a side that were 4-0 down in a 5 match series and just waiting for the last rites so they could go home. Chasing 378 is supposed to be incredibly difficult and yet that looked like a stroll.

    Amazing how Bairstow has hit this run of form as he went something like 35 or so innings without a century heading into this year and then a string of low scores until Trent Bridge and he has suddenly put together an unbelievable 5 innings where he is seeing the ball like a football.

    England still have a number of problems as they wouldn't be needing to chase 378 if everything was rosy, but you could tell that India didn't know what a good score was in the 3rd innings as England's approach had them worrying. Look at the run rates of each innings, where India went at 4.9 in their first innings but trying to set a target in their second innings, they went at 2.99. Their approach in that first innings had England doing some strange things in the field and they almost abandoned it yesterday morning. Still, a target of 378 should be more than enough for a bowling side and outside those 3 wickets in 16 balls, it was a dreadful bowling performance.

    Full credit though to Stokes and England. They have been a joy to watch so far this summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yep the more positive and confident England is the total opposite of Roots setup.

    England could have gotten 470 plus if needed the way they were going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Scarcely believable what they've done in a month. Winning the toss and deciding to chase. Think of that. You win the toss and bat. Occasionally, very rarely, you decide to bowl first. It does need good pitches, will never work in the subcontinent for example. It uses the third innings against the opposition. Teams have forever messed up their third inning and now it's being tactically exploited.

    Having Root and Bairstow in the form they're will make any captain look a genius it has to be said too. I'm not sure I've seen batting at this level ever. Over a long period of time by both now really. Root especially. The calmness of it, just seems inevitable with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    England won’t be happy with the India total. They bowled better in the last 3/4 overs but to need ten an over to win is challenging.

    bad start by England, Buttler their danger man or one of them out for a duck in the first over. He got a good one to be fair. That delivery swung and moved about 8 inches off the pitch.



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    29-3 after 5! And it's not often you see Roy floundering on 3 not out after 5 overs - maybe he's playing for his not out! ................... No he's out! 33-4 in the 7th over - time to bring back Eoin Morgan!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    12 required per over… only one winner. England have been poor…bat and ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    9 overs in and England have only managed 8 boundaries. That’s no good… average even for test cricket but 20-20 😟

    umpires completely **** again.. missing a few wides and no balls on height.



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    I have to confess that I'm always delighted when Roy fails; for me, he's the by some distance the most inelegant and ugly batsman (batter?) in world T20 cricket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    He is a bit awkward and robotic looking.. not as easy on the eye as some. Decent one day record mind.

    dreadful test player, think he averaged 18 from 6 tests or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Poor by Moeen. Whatever chance England had disappearing with his exit. Didn’t even try to make his ground which is bad form. Couldn’t anticipate the Karthick drop but try, make the effort and he’s maybe still there…poor. Curran with an untidy shot but could have beeen no balled on height, close.

    over 16 required an over.



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