Dublin - Metrolink (Swords to Charlemont only)

This will never happen. This is like the absence of skyscrapers in Dublin. We can barely build houses that don't fall apart.

If and its a big if, construction ever starts it will be never ending costings 10s of billions lasting 10s of years.

The money being talked about is obscene and it wont actually solve the problem (Whatever that problem actually is).

The issue we have, as a country is the focus on Dublin and neglecting the other cities. Spread the population around a bit more evenly - surely that has to be a priority!

23 Billion (which is what this will be if ever completed) is over a billion euro per kilmetre of track.

Would probably be cheaper and more use to give everyone nationally free public transport on existing options for a few decades.

How can anyone take you seriously when you claim Metrolink won't solve "the problem" while also saying you don't know what the problem is?

No the issue is that we have a capital city with woeful infrastructure which this project will somewhat address.

There’s not a chance it’s going to cost €23 billion. Ryan said that if it was built today it would cost over €5 billion and that the €9 billion + is a pretty safe figure.

I’m sure the government are keen to avoid a repeat of the children’s hospital overrun so hopefully the final cost will be less than the €9.5 billion.

Good question. The fact that it needed to be asked is a tribute to the poor quality of journalists. If it doesn't include the rolling stock then the €9.5bn is a totally useless number.

That's when they should have builth them on the crash. Jobs were needed then. The next recession soon zo arrive will they miss this opportunity also

Have you anything to support your last claim there? To provide the same capacity in Dublin as Metrolink, you are talking about a near doubling of bus services at a time when they are struggling to attract and retain bus drivers. It would take an enormous improvement in pay and conditions to attract that number of drivers, not that they'd be doing much driving as the buses would be sitting bumper to bumper due to them swamping the city. Trying to provide Metrolinks capacity with buses isn't realistic. Without that people moving capacity, you will seriously hamper economic activity and cause all sorts of social issues (as our reluctance to invest in high capacity pt heretofore demonstrates). So paying out for buses/drivers which can't operate effectively and will not provide an attractive service to the public to facilitate modal shift.

And yes I am aware you said probably but no, that doesn't give you a free pass to make **** up.

When you see the social media comment sections on the various media articles, its fairly evident why we are behind the curve and don't get the big infrastructure spend here. Full of negative, narrow minded, anti Dublin bs. If rural ireland can't get a train to the nearest town then the capital city can't get a metro.

Spread population evenly ?

It's not vietnam.... People have a say as to where they want to live.

the same people or some who are for canning the metro I’ve read this afternoon are also pro unrestricted immigration.

loads more people but no more transport options.m couldn’t make it up.

Have to remember the majority of his listeners are commuters in their cars, so he's preaching to the choir. Giving them what they want to hear.

This project will never get off the ground, more wasted CGI images and consultancy fees.

What kind of silly comparison is that? Have look at how long the picadilly line takes to get from Heathrow to Central and you pay €5 for the privilege.

Dublin suffers from a lack of investment rather than over population. Typically small countries have one primate city because it gives the country a city of competitive scale in as many markets as possible. Before the famine we had 8 million people and hardly any towns with more than 10,000 people the result is a lack of economies of scale and little scope for new services to develop.

Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Finland, the baltic States know this lesson well. Irish country folk are unique in their desire to apportion development into 32 equal portions based on antiquated British administrative borders.

Looks very similar to the Copenhagen metro from the mockups I've seen. I've been on that and it's a very impressive system if you miss a train there will literally be a train pulling in to the station just after the previous one departed.

I’d be fûcking delighted if it was even half as good as the Copenhagen Metro…

brilliant system.

price tag is a joke. No doubt in no small part due to contractors trying to rape the state at gun point..